Calzaghe or Hamed - who has the better legacy?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Unfortunately, that is doomed to be the common misconception of the Barrera-Hamed fight. It was supposedly a "schooling" where the schooled won four rounds, a "destruction" that went to the judges cards, and a "humilation" that one judge scored 116-112. Considering the calibre of the opposition, it was literally none of those things.
     
  2. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naz has a far better legacy people are still talking about him years after he left the sport and will still be talking about him in another 10 years.He was always great to watch and would fight anyone.Calzaghe is a good fighter and im not taking anything away from him,he was a very good champ for a long time but his fights were often dull 12 round affairs against limited opposition.The only times Joe looked truly dominant and powerful were against the likes of Pudwill shieka and Manfreado.I dont think he will be talked about that much in ten years time and a lot of his fights will have been well forgoten.Naz won his fights in far better style and pretty much cleared up the division i certainly think his legacy is better than that of Joe.
     
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  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    There is no doubt that Calzaghe has the better achivements, and a slightly better resume, but as you mention, "legacy" isn't all about achivements and resume, its about fame, impact, influence and longevity. I would suggest Hamed was certainly more globally famous than Calzaghe, he had more influence and impact in maintaining interest in the sport, and attracting new fans and media interest. Therefore, I believe Naz has the better overall legacy.
     
  5. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats a very good point.

    it's rare a fighter of hamed's size can make those sort of waves globally, but that was because he was so entertaining. and even though he will always be criticised for retiring once he was beaten by the first world class fighter in his prime he ever fought, that still remains one step calzaghe never made - which is why calzaghe gets so much stick.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Calzaghe. Hamed was embarrassed against the first legit fighter he fought. Morales would have wiped the floor with him also. How he avoided the best in his division for so long I will never know.
     
  7. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    read my post above - at least he fought a legit fighter in his prime.

    there's definitely two sides to this coin.
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    You live in your own little world, don't ya Rico? :-(
     
  9. FrochPascal

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    :patsch :rofl
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Hamed was all hype. The guy got his ass handed to him as soon as he stepped up.

    Then he left the sport in disgrace.
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Seriously name one opponent of Calzaghe's, that was as good as Barrera, and in their prime?
     
  12. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you don't know how to answer my posts, save the childish emotes if that's the best you can do.

    if you disagree with something then let's hear it - otherwise you want to di“sagree with me because of your allegiances, but that's all it is.
     
  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Hamed won three world titles, and beat every world title holder in the featherweight division, to essentially unify it, - that isn't hype, thats achivement.

    But anyway, I'm sure you see what you want to see.
     
  14. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i have the same view. i thinks it's a slap in the face of a great fighter like barrera to attribute hameds loss to what hamed did'nt do, than what barrera did.:patsch.
     
  15. FrochPascal

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    a legit fighter in hes prime and lost convincingly.....

    calzaghe faced kessler to unify the supermiddleweight division...so there goes your 'at least he faced a legit fighter in hes prime' thing.

    still im not saying hamed wasnt good...but to say he has a better legacy over calzaghe, when he stepped up to fight barrera and lost (then i think had one more fight and quit) is silly. Hes legacy (i think he even admitted himself) was centered around barrera, morales and what he would do when he faced them etc. He flopped vs barrera for whatever reasons....then quit soon after.....what a legacy.

    And yes the ringwalked were nice, he was so arrogant, which appealed to some fans around the world but many will remember him struggling againts a world class opponent and then quiting