Dariusz Michalczewski - would he had been a good win for Jones, or dismissed..

michalczewski would have ko'd roy with his jab.

 

hatton ducked floyd in 2005 at 140 saying he wasn't ready, then in 2006 when he beat collazo he declined to unify his wba title with floyds IBF title.

after floyd decided to retire after beating hoya ricky finally got the balls to call floyd out at after he retired..so from june 2005 when floyd detroyed gatti for the WBC title and #1 ranking at 140 to april 2007 hatton never made a peep about fighting floyd.

and darius the "tiger" mikawho was the a sven otke, joe calzaghe, european fighter.. fought for the weakest title for most of their career against c and d level fighters. never took risks against young prime fighters only wanted to fight older past prime fighters like, virgil hill, bernard jhopkins, and roy jones jr,:deal

darius never had a win over a prime elite fighter:deal same goes for calzaghe, and ottke.admin

and darius was not past prime when he lost to julio gonzales, another excuse you pos want to use:|:|:|

 

hatton wasn't in the market to call out a fight with floyd until he KO'd castillo.

hatton made all the right moves a year leading up to that fight and thats why he got castillo and thats why he got floyd.

if you think ricky was waiting to "get the balls" to challenge floyd then you need to try this sport sometime instead of posting about it - because thats bull****.

 

DM was not past it, he was shot and almost 36 years old when he lost to a 27 year old Gonzalez. DM would have battered Gonzalez in his prime, and stopped him.

Also, he beat a prime Virgil Hill, that is a prime elite fighter, when both were at their best.

Hill was 33 but he aged like Hopkins, he still held a world title over a decade after losing to DM.

 

Ever seen him fight?

 

keep telling yourself that..ricky was in the market once he beat zoo at 140 for the IBF title with a 11 round tko. floyd had just won the wbc title with a devastating tko victory and garnered the #1 ranking at ring.

are you saying ring champion vs #1 ring contender in a unification title wasn't bigger then both guys fighting 2 years later at 147 where one guy looked awesome going into the fight and the other guy looked terrible going into the fight.

the fight would have been bigger at 140 then at 147 since hatton had did very little at 147.

hatton looked terrible after beating zoo, going life and death against maussa, urango, collazo, and beating an old castillo all lowered ricky's stock going into the fight. he remained undefeated but it was clear that he was not in floyd's league who had no trouble against tougher competition over the same period.

if he was a good business man he would have fought floyd at 140 and if he lost he could have challenged floyd again at 147.

 

Michalczewski has to get some credit. For beating Barber (unbeaten puncher, WBO champ), Hill (unified, #1 light heavyweight), Griffin (stopped in 4), Rocchigiani rematch (terrific fight, Rocchi beat Nunn, was a valid foe, big all German fight), Thadzi (tough/limited sort, had beaten a drained Toney). These guys do offer a range of styles. He was powerful, strong, great jab but fairly slow and easy to hit. Stylistically somewhat like Israel Vazquez, he just broke ppl down steadily.

He was a successful fighter, he made and lost a lot of money, and did prove himself though there are many poor opponents on his record. Certainly the title run was dragged out forever and he wasn't very good at the end, and he seemed to quit the 1st Rocchi fight. But a very very good fighter from 97-00.

European fighters get more credit now because ppl know about Calzaghe, Abraham, etc. European boxing was ignored for a long time, even though fighters were winning at a good level since the Henry Maske era. Michalczewski would have been a Ring mag champion had he done what he did in this era.

Certainly would have been a big win for Roy Jones. But Roy Jones was getting a lot of money from HBO to fight anyone ranked in the WBA, WBC, IBF top 10 - could be someone as good as Reggie Johnson or as bad as Richard Frazier. Dariusz was obviously getting his good money in Germany where he drew big crouds. Both had their comfort zones and never fought.

 

he didn't beat anyone as good as gonzales in his prime wo you don't know what you're talking about.

hill was 33 but prime but darius is 35 and shot..talk about talking out of your ass:deal you can't have it both ways chief..if hill was prime at 33 darius was prime at 35.

now you are comparing virgil hill to bernard hopkins..virgil hill is two steps below hopkins, toney, and the other greats..virgil hill lost to an old tommy hearns, and you call him prime and elite at the age of 33:admin:admin:admin

 

Life and death? Lowered his stock? He knocked out two of them, beat one of them 119 - 109 on all the cards and against the other won a UD away from home against a titleholder on his first fight moving up in weight. He didn't train very well for that last fight and didn't look great, granted.

 

this is not HOF calibre opposition:deal roy koed virgil hill before darius got to him, same goes to richard hall. darius was feeding off roy's scraps for years no way is that a good victory darius has done nothing special with his career:deal

 

he sure was.

the only headshot i've really enjoyed watching more since then is torres on cotto in round 2 - you know the one.

i prefer a good bodyshot to a headshot anyday but torres had cotto in lala-land with that punch and you could hear it half a world away.

 

did you see hatton's face after the mausa fight, and compare floyds face against mitchell, judah, baldomir, and hoya.

hatton held on against urango and collazo which is why he won those fights, but he lost alot of respect in the general boxing public by doing that here in the US.

the only fight he looked decent in was the castillo fight and he was still doing too much holding.

the fight would have been bigger at 140 where hatton coming of a tko against zsyu and floyd coming off a tko against gatto would have garnered much international attention.

but hatton didn't feel like he was ready to fight floyd since he had only 1 championship fight while floyd had 15:deal

 

immature post. name me anyone from 160-175 who beat a legend in his prime/p4per at his best/who wasn't considerably smaller.

Jones beat a prime Toney, but Toney was drained/out of shape etc.
Hopkins beat prime Tito, but Tito above his natural weight.
Calzaghe beat prime Kessler/Lacy, good but not great fighters.
Calzaghe beating an old but still p4p top 5 Hopkins.
Dawson beating Johnson and Tarver (old), Adamek (dangerous, but weight drained & with wrong trainer)
DM beating Hill, not in his prime, but Hill for the 1st time The Man at 175

It's the little guys who fight the legends in their primes i.e. Marquez bros, Vazquez, Pac, Morales, Barrera.

etc. These guys from middle to light heavy take the fights that make money and the fights that are an interesting enough package to the fans. They make money during long title runs and take a calculated risk. Boxing's about risk-reward not about LEGEND / PRIME; you need to show an understandign of boxing as a business. Fighters will draw things out to keep their earner for as long as they can. They want to maximise their earnings and often take the most lucrative fight rather than the most meaningful.

Look at Kelly Pavlik, a warrior, but is looking to cash in vs Duddy or Mora before unification with Abraham.

 

no he didnt.

he gained respect of everybody for having the balls to put his name on the line and make these fights happen when he could have stayed in britain and let frank warren milk him until the end of his days.

if he lost respect then how the hell do you think he got castillo to fight him?

and that was the fight that got him the floyd fight....

 

Using Ricky Hatton's face as evidence for an argument is simply laughable.

A decent wash could leave him bruised and bloodied.

Did you see his face after fighting Thaxton? What does that prove, exactly?