Dariusz Michalczewski - would he had been a good win for Jones, or dismissed..

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  1. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so what if it's not HOF / LEGEND / PRIME blah blah blah. Boxing fans talk about legend/prime etc, boxers want money and a career and risk/reward being balanced in their favour.

    it's proof that he was a top level operator, the names DM beat. You don't beat Barber, Hill, Griffin, Rocchigiani (a lucrative fight in germany, the Benn-Eubank of Germany) if you aren't any good.

    No, DM beat Hill before Jones did. DM did it when Hill was WBA/IBF champ. Jones did it AFTER Hill copped a 12 rd beating from DM. Hill came in for a non title over the weight fight and Jones wouldn't fight unless Hill drained himself.

    DM was terrible in thre last couple years holding the WBO title, woeful performances vs Hall, Harmon, DeGrandis

    German promoters are too cautious and thrifty to produce a legend but they have many fighters who score some excellent wins before sitting on titles.
     
  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dariusz did not win a fight after turning 35 years old.

    Hill won a world title at 36 and then another interim belt in his 40's.

    He had Hopkins-like longevity, and like Hopkins, was at the very top of his game at 33 years of age...it is when he beat Maske in Gerkmany, and when he lost to Dariusz Michalczewski.

    Learn some boxing, you dip****.
     
  3. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The underlined, combined with the "Roy KOed Gonzo in 6" quote, let's me know I'm dealing with a knowledge-less troll.

    Thanks for wasting everybody's time chief. :rofl
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bump!

    Where has the troll, I mean the king gone?

    :rofl
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    That's crazy talk his best win was against Toney !
     
  6. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    one of his best wins.

    but he wouldnt have beat him.

    i see that fight going the same way as jones/johnson

    and if ones self appointed groupies feel the need to purge ones petty frustrations at one then please have the deceny to know ones station and address one as sir first.thankyou.
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    How could u see that fight going like the Johnson fight ? When he fought Johnson he was coming down from heavy ..If they had fought it would have been around 02 03 and Jones was pretty much unbeatable back then and DM was not as much of a pressure fighter as the Road Warrior ..Jones by UD .No Ko's in this one !
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Beating a James Toney who also has been outboxed by the likes of David Tiberi, Drake Thadzi, Montell Griffin twice, ect... isn't a better win than beating an undefeated Prime DM. No way in hell. Especially considering that DM knocked out both Thadzi and Griffin who beat Toney.
     
  9. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    ok.
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Yeah but at the time Toney was the best fighter P4P and the supermiddle weight champ Roy moved from 160 to 168 to beat him this was long before Toney had those losses .And if you want to be picky Julio Gonzales beat DM who Jones smoked ! So lets not go there ..
     
  11. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    james toney.one of the most overrated fighters ever.
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    How long have you followed boxing to say this ??
     
  13. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    “Champions aren´t made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision.”


    not a mcdonalds.
     
  14. Sokrates

    Sokrates Member Full Member

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    I´m not sure, if Dariusz could fight Roy like Johnson did. Prime Jones had a whole different mindset and the Tiger cuts quite easily.
     
  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Um u still didn't answer my question ! Have u only followed Toney for the last 5 yrs or something ??