Calzaghe top 10 perfomances

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stamina was probably the main issue in that fight but not the only one..Joe's sense of distance, speed and his own defensive ability prevented Hopkins from convincingly beating him in enough rounds IMO.

    Their attacks were almost canceled out by each other in that fight...Joe was different to Kelly in the way he could throw but not consistently get made to pay for missing.
     
  2. DINAMITA

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    You think Roy Jones could move up and win a cruiserweight title now though. Your opinion = manure.
     
  3. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you should have said calzaghe's unique talent for fighting aged greats 8 years after he should have fought them.

    it's very naaive to buld up calzaghe over this.

    there's a good reason why calzaghe didn'øt fight hopkins in his prime and i'm tired of hearing people trying to glorify an, admittedly, excellent fighter who minimised the risks he took in his career.

    give it a rest.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    On and on it goes.

    I'll judge Joe based upon what he did, and what he was.

    You do what you like.
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    But this was all allowed by the fact Hopkins was hampered by not being able to sustain his performance level. Calzaghe was only able to do this because Hopkins couldn't fight at a consistently high intensity like he could do around 2001.

    Jermain Taylor and Joe Calzaghe won decisions over Hopkins in different ways but essentially via the same means, by outworking him.

    I don't believe outworking a past-prime B-Hop while producing very little clean or significant punching attacks was as impressive as his all-round performance against Kessler.
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    That's my final word on the subject though, this is a thread for Calzaghe fans to choose their favourite performance, I'm sure the last thing anyone wants here is for me to clog it up with my all too familiar opinions.

    PS: I reiterate, Joe's performance against Kessler was superb, that's my vote.
     
  7. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    1st kessler (without a doubt(

    2nd bernard (bernard is one of the trickest fighters in the game, awkward fight but got the result)

    3rd lacy (destroyed the kid and the kid has never got over it in brutal fashion with the odds were against him, but he was a bit of a hype job)
     
  8. McGrain

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    Well nobody has said any different.

    What we do know is that the same fighter was able to dominate a fighter who was undefeated, had high level wins, was undisputed MW champion. You are concentrating upon the reasons why the plan worked.

    Why?

    And why does it make the fact that the plan was perfect and perfectly executed any less admirable?

    It's important that we understant and absorb these * but if you ask people for Ali's best performance, the majority will pick Williams, who was missing a kidney and was close to totally shot the night Ali beat him.

    Hopkins was still pound for pound top 10 when he met Joe. Bottom line speaks loudest.
     
  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you based him on what he did then you wouldn't have to use a 43 year old man to refer to joe as 'brilliant'.

    but you're right, it's a never ending circle for some people.
     
  10. McGrain

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    His age is absolutley irrelevant. That's sort of the point.

    Pavlik would unquestionably be amongst Hopkins own top 10 best performances, and that comes after the Calzaghe fight (i had it by a point).
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    I suppose it does say something about Joe's resume that in a learned boxing man's opinion his greatest performance was an ugly and unconvincing SD over a man years from his peak. I'd still go Kessler, but fair enough mate, I think Hopkins would beat Kessler now so I can see your point I suppose.
     
  12. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if the age is irrelevant then calzaghe would have taken the path to glory witrh jones and or hopkins when it mattered.

    it's very naaive of you to think that age isn't a major issue with fighters.

    as soon as you said this you labelled yourself - because now i know you've never fought yourself.

    believe me, it matters.
     
  13. McGrain

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    I've been shouting for two years that Kessler would be an easy day at the office for Hopkins.
     
  14. McGrain

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    And vice-versa, of course.

    It is absolutley, entirely irrelivant. Has no bearing on the conversation.

    A fighter can be 25 and shopworn, a fighter can be 43 and top 10 p4p.

    You are wrong.
     
  15. Predicto

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    Lacy was a bum!

    Kessler by a mile!