George Chuvalo - how good was he?

You're right. I just rewatched it on youtube and that was clearly no knockdown.

But we have a brain for ourselfs and can see what happened. Chuvalo got knocked down.[/quote]

Did you mean - we have a brain for oursel

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Sorry, I couldn't resist commenting on the irony.

 

Well i said i had a brain, didn't say it was a good one.

 

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it was a push that oscar used on chuvalo,thats why there was no count do you think your smarter then the referee?maybe you and that senya guy need to start viewing another sport thats my suggestion

 

Chuvalo's very poor skills sent Ali to the hospital with some internal bleeding after their first fight. Chuvalo's very poor skills put some serious hurt on Floyd Patterson which I believe was the fight of the year in 1965.
Chuvalo's very poor skills beat Quarry in seven rounds, but couldn't get him the rightful decision against Terrell.

 

Well said,

The problem however is that Senya views the above mentioned fighters as being journeyman, so the fact that Chuvalo gave all of them great fights and even defeated some them, doesn't mean much..

 

Yes, since i have the aid of slow motion replay, or just a re-play option at all, i am much smarter than the referee.

 

You don't need skills to bang away at the body or head and cause damage. Completely irrelevant arguments. Patterson actually went in and slugged with Chuvalo, instead of boxing. He claimed he injured his hand or something, although the commission din't find proof of it. Chuvalo complained ala John Ruiz, that the referee was breaking them apart too soon the whole fight. He liked to make stupid complaints about the fights he lost anyway.

 

what??

 

fact remains 93 fights never floored young feller,i like how smart you think you are.we are talking about1 of the most durable heavys that ever stepped into boxing ring a guy that has nothing to prove to young guy like you

 

I do not think that is what Seyna is saying. I think he is saying Chavalo was a throw back quality journeyman type, and as we know, thought out boxing history those people can create problems for top five fighters in a particular decade.


If Chavalo won a few round on Ali, it tells me Ali fought the wrong type of fight, did not in-fight, did not have clinching skills then, and lacked the power to keep Chavalo off of him as an out fighter.

 

Why in the **** are you always playing the age card?

Are we all inherently ******ed because we don't have grandchildren and fiber deficiencies?

 

because i can thats why,young guys use their youth older guys use experience,i have no deficiencies buddy i'm 61 and still hit the heavy bag pretty well.at 6'1" tall and 230lbs i can still go a few rds most guys quit after several body shots

 

So you think it's some telling statistic that puts you on a pedestal while at the same time doing exactly what 15 year olds do with the chest bumping "I'm 220 pounds!" bull****.

Best of both worlds there, Jake. A wise old man who can also brag out what a man he is.

 

you seem to have a problem son.

 

:rofl

I rest my case, dad.