How much of a role did Shanes power play in his win over Margo?

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  1. purplestuff

    purplestuff Member Full Member

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    agreed, but IMO this is the only way for cotto to fight margo. cotto doesnt have the strength to back him up, nor the chin to stand and slug, nor the power to hurt margo. i think the boxing and circling acually extended cotto here. Basically i think cotto has the potential to do well against margo, but i see no rout to victory for him. now margo was custom built for shane.
     
  2. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    sounds like an excuse to me..and a sorry one:hi:
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    His physical strength played a stronger role than the power behind his punches
     
  4. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Nuthugger my ass you dicklicking ******. No one can ever accuse me of that. You can't deny that the constant clinching is what mainly negated Margo's ability to fight on the inside which was his best strength coming into thjis fight. It's the same basic gameplan Molsey used against Mayorga.. only differencee is it took Shane longer to dispose of mayorga, but the result was essentially the same.
     
  5. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    It wasn't excessive?! :roll: What the **** consistutes as excessive with you guys these days? More than 3 clinhces a round should be considered excessive IMO, and yet we have guys out there who will clinch anywhere from 6 - 10 times a round and yet fans like you don't consider that excessive?! Geez! What the **** does a guy have to do to be considered excessive these days? What, do they have to hold a guy for a full 3 minutes without letting go?! :patsch
     
  6. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Head over to the Classic Forum sometime guys and learn something. The difference in the quality of the posts on similar topics between classic and GF is .... well just take a look.

    The Wanderer makes some great points :

     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So I guess the fact that whenever the did fight on the inside shanes faster hands beat Margo to the mark every time...You have color a pig blue but its still a pig...Say what you will, but claiming that shane's holding won him the fight makes you a nuthugger...dropp'n those rights and lefts on Margo's melon is what won him the fight...It was shanes power that had Margo unwilling to engage him in the late rounds...Go back and watch right before the knockdown in the 8th round, Margo was coming forward and Shane dropped a nice right hook to the body and Margo stopped in his tracks thought about it and backed off...It that shot didnt hurt me he would have kept coming forward...It was the POWER on the punch that stopped Margo not any kind of holding. Saying that it was holding in the manner that you suggest is saying that Shane cheated by holding and that is the reason that he won the fight thus making you an excuse making sackswinger:hi:
     
  8. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm I said those things before the fight...In simple form and without having seen the fight before hand...Margo is limited, he throws wide shots and has poor balance, He will stand right in front of Shane and get blasted by power shots until his corner or the ref stops the fight....that is what I said BEFORE the fight
     
  9. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First I'd like to say Mosley has always hit hard. Not as heavy a hitter as Tito or Hoya but probably moreso like Cotto. But I think the answer is speed and timing and as others said a very brilliant use of clinching (he didn't overdo it like Hopkins or Hatton). But timing Margarito as he was ready to fire and beating him to the punch over and over again I think was the biggest factor. Shane's bodywork did as well. I think it was a gradual breakdown of his opponent not just more powerful shots landed.
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shane stopped Margo in his tracks in the second round...And sting him thoughout the fight...Cotto landed bomb after bomb and couldnt even get him to blink...I know that admitting Shanes power is the MAJOR factor in winning him the fight will force some here to think that Cotto isnt the big puncher that he was built up to be, but the truth is in the pudding as they say....:hey
     
  11. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    I'm familiar with your biased nuthugging big guy... so don't sit there with your holier than thou attitude. I've seen the extent of your boxing knowledge, and it ain't much.

    And I don't see how Shane's body punching was much of a factor. He hit Margo with only a few good shots in the 1st three rounds or so and after that Shane became a strict head hunter. The body punching was no where near as consistent as it should have been... and how can you explain the fact that Margo was walking through Shane's suppossed power through all the early rounds? Except of course until he got worn down by the clearly excessive clinching and wrestling that Shane was doing on the inside?

    But if you don't believe me let's take a look shall we?...

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    Hmm, looks like proof positive of my point to me.:deal
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JR you are truely blind and a sackswinging moron...with 54 second left in the 8th round Shane landed a right hook to the body and Margo stopped dead in his tracks...A few seconds later he was picking his ass up off the canvas...Only a blind ass ballboy like yourself would miss that or deny that it happened...Not a nuthugger??? WTF you may be as bad as Fredy:patsch
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly, I dont think power was that big a factor.....Shane hit Margarito enough to KO the average Welterweight 10x.....

    I believe it was Shane's physical strenghth as well....he was able to body up Margarito and shoot quick shots then a bomb.....

    ....when Shane sensed Margarito to punch, he'd tie up his hands, and use his physical strenghth to back up Margarito.....

    Shane imo is Margarito's kryptonite.....Margarito is'nt the most skilled fighter, so he depends on having the physical advantage to gain the edge.....
    When Margarito's edge in strenghth equals his opponents, there is no question that the higher skilled fighter will present a monumental problem for Margarito....

    On Margarito's behalf, there are'nt any Welterweights that are physically stronger and posses the speed and quickness of Shane Mosely.
    The man has been known to bench press an inordinant amount of weight for his size.

    Lets give Shane Mosley credit, he's a great Welterweight.
    Imo he beat Miguel Cotto when they fought.
     
  14. DAGOBOY

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    nice videos of both of them doing a fair amount of clenching initiated by both parties. especially since the video was meant to highlight mosley clenching.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Mosley shattered the myth of Margarito's Iron Chin. Literally.