Ike Ibeabuchi vs the Klitschko Bros.

People love to point out how Mike Tyson changed from the fighter he was in his prime, to a fighter looking for a one punch ko. Where are these people when discussing the different versions of David Tua? David Tua changed, and became more of a one punch fighter than Tyson ever dared to become. Ibeabuchi faced the best version of David Tua ever known.

Ike would have faced the same physical disadvantages most face when fighting the Klitschkos. I would take pick Vitali by decision, but I think Ibeabuchi gets to Wladimir after 7.

 

I must bow down to you since you post primarily in the classic forum.

Anyways, fighters in the past can be overrated. Hopefully, I don't have to explain this to you and you understand.

Ike fought 20 fights. Best opponents: Chris Byrd and David Tua.

As someone else pointed out, he wasn't around long enough for us to pick out his weaknesses.

I still stand by my predictions.

 

I see Wladimir dominating him but there is chances that he gets caught and falls. Vitali probably wins this by late TKO/UD.

 

I remember that. Larry Merchant picked up on it and was wondering if Curtis Cokes (his trainer) had seen something in the gym that we didn't know.

Although i don't like the word, i think Ibeabuchi is overrated in addition to other reason i stated, because he didn't stay away from Tua, but still went 12 with him and got the decision. But many seem to forget that it was a damn close fight, with most people here scoring the fight for Tua, and that several other boxers have accomplished the same feat or beat Tua by an even wider margin. Ike shot his bolt during the first four rounds and that was it. He got hit a lot more than people think... his chin and thoughness was certainly proven of course, but is that enough? See how far that got Tua against Lewis..

Fact is, every Ibeabuchi opponent stood right in front of him and was short. The Klitschko's are just the opposite.

 

Ibeabuchi did not look that good in the Byrd fight, as a matter of fact it was the on the ropes clowning not Ibeabuchi that got Byrd because he thought the fight was in the bag and he certainly had ibeabuchi trailing in the cards.

Far more important is that Ike already started to disintegrate before the fight, he hardly trained and was far more focused on the occult and hookers...........the writting for his future was already on the wall.

Before his coming out party against Tua he looked less than spectacular against handpicked tomatoe cans, some even took him the distance.

Tua is wayyyyyyyyyyyy overrated, Izon, Oleg, Rahman etc , by no means exceptional talents ,had him easily figured out until he landed the only punch in his arsenal, the left hook, well, with a little help form the referee. With Tuas history of not getting by a jab it was just a question of when not if when he would run out of luck and could not get bailed out by his left hook. Hell even Johnny Luise picked up a ABC belt a thing the Samoean was not able to do. His stock also dropped drasticlly with his pathetic showing in the Lewis fight.

I could see Ike getting to WK early if WK cannot get his jab going but if WK is able to control the fight from the outside and impose his will it will be a long nite for Ike.

Due to VK's overall toughness, power in both hands, same great chin and awesome reflexes I have a hard time believing that Ike ever would be in the fight, especially if he presses forward and opens himself up , imo he is going to get countered to death.

 

Its nice to see some fans notice Vitlai has good reflexes and countering ability.

 

While I agree Ike may be overrated, it is also clear none of Klitschko's fought anyone similar. I do not think the most important point from Ike-Tua is if you scored it 115:113 for Tua or for Ike. Almost everybody was able to outbox Tua for a couple for rounds (Nicholson, Maskaev,...). Making a war and surviving it, let alone winning (or, if you don't agree, at least making it close) was another thing.

While his strategy was not particularly wise, it showed he had exceptonial chin and stamina. Also catching elusive Byrd and flooring him with one shot is something no one achieved (don't mention George).

Fact is also that Wlad fought (very) poor man version of Ike and almost lost. I would give more chances to Vitali just because of chin, but I am not sure either.

You had to take into account Ike had no amateur career (at least one I know of), so I can guess he was boxing "seriously" only the last part of his career. He was crude, but with one-two years more I can definitely see him improving.

 

We agree!

 

Tua was unbeaten because he'd fought nobody (Maskaev excepted). Rahman was beating him soundly before that ridiculous stoppage and that was only a year later or so. I'll accept that Ibeabuchi fought the best version as you say but he (Tua) was still never all that good and I and most people it seems think Tua won. I'm not criticising Ibeabuchi, I'm simply saying we never saw enough of him to make a really informed opinion of how he'd perform against a fighter like either of the Klitschko's. You can't look at a brief career cut short and then be so certain of 'what would have been'.

arse=elke the stallion

 

Both Klitschko's would pound on him and win. Never saw Ike beat a big and talented, winning heavy...but to read about him on the web, you'd have thought he was the second coming of Kid Dynamite.

Jim Lampley's assertion that Ike would smash Lennox Lewis after we saw Byrd destroyed was just colorful cheerleading on his part.

BTW - I thought Tua edged Ike....and we all know how easily Lennox turned Tua into a fistic approximate of a limp dick.

Ike may have had a couple of big moments, but he gets no favors from this corner...he simply never earned it.

 

Of course I am.

Thanks, cupcake.

 

I think both Klitschko would be able to beat...Ike had 2 good fights Tua and Byrd but he never proved he had the mental abilty to handle pressure. Its hard to Judge Ike, he looked like he would be something special but I think the steriods got to him, he lost his mind on more than 1 occasions and it would have happened in the ring sooner or later

 

Jim Lampley is as big a moron as Kellerman is. He should have been gotten rid of years ago. He never shuts up for a second and he always talks bollocks, I sit grinding my teeth every time he's on because all the punches his favourite fighters miss are called "big right hands" or "hard left hooks". He always picks a favourite and cheerleads. Complete ****. I hate him. Merchant should do it on his own, or with a Jones or Steward. Sit there, watch the fight and make a comment when it's worthwhile to make one.

Rant over (for now)