PAVLIK vs. ABRAHAM pushed back yet again, most likely off

This discussion has turned into a disgrace by both fan-parties...

...you can talk all the smack but as long as there's no fight it's absolutely worthless.

Why not starting another round of Ketchel, Hearns, Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins vs. Pavlik and Abraham...it's about the same...

 

i want to see this fight so much

 

Any 'hard link' yet? I don't doubt Saurland made an offer and all. I'd like to see the terms he proposed.

 

Hmm.... if this happens out 'inside' source will have been right. Arum may have just been very shrewd in his negotiation tactics.

quick edit. That article is an example of what is wrong with ESB's front page. An post escaping from the forums and posing as an "article".:deal

 

The conclusion is that AA vs. Pav isn't going to happen at middleweight if it won't happen 2009. What a shame! I really dislike Arum violently.

 

Kelly has said that he is not happy some folks rank AA above him at middle. Someone with the proverbial ear predicted AA in June. I think we know Kelly's thinking on this. Arum has his own plan. Would be brilliant IF he could pull it off. Duddy for the cash. Sturm for the unification. AA as a climax. That would be absolutely brilliant promoting if it happened. Tell AA to stay away from the donuts between fights.

PS: If I were Team Pavlik, this fight would happen in Atlantic City. They impose weight restrictions on championship fights. I don't remember exactly. I think a week before, you must be within 5% of the limit and may not enter the ring outside that either.

 

I'm not one of the secret agents, and I will NEVER tell you who they are:hey

I'm glad to see **** getting stirred up. And speaking of stirring ****, Pavlik KO8 Abraham:hi:

 

I´m not 100% sure of the outcome of this fight and I like both fighters (Abraham more ).

I think IF Kelly manages to keep Arthur at range for 12 rounds he will clearly on points because of being more active. In a brawl he will be killed by Abraham. Another thing will be if Pavlik has gone rid of the ghosts of having lost for the first time.

55% towards Abraham winning by KO

 

I actually think the negotiations are getting quite serious now. Pavlik/Abraham desrves to be a huge event rather than just another fight for hard core fans. Turning it into a huge event requires some promotional finesse. Make Pavlik/Duddy at MSG, and put AA on the undercard against his next mandatory. Everbody would make money, and KP and AA both come away looking like monsters. I'm convinced that is the right course of action.

 

Abraham weight approx. 172 lbs for the first Miranda fight right before thy'd get it on.