How Do You Beat __________ Convincingly?

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  1. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Being JMM?, why?, to lose again?

    JMM had his shot twice and failed both times. The first time was a bull**** draw as the stupid female judge admitted she was wrong when she scored the first round 10-7 rather than 10-6, so that fight was in Pacquiao's favor as well.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Exactly. :lol:
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I bet you Sweet Pea would disagree.
     
  5. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny Pac? Get Manny to jump into a shot... And work the body.... He's a quick guy... Not just in the hand speed department... So dedicate a majority of your attack to the body early on....
    Floyd Mayweather? Keep your distance and volume punch... Be careful of that uppercut str8 right hand combo.... Jab with some authority... Get him on the ropes and start working away...
    Chad Dawson? Body punching will wear anyone down... He'll more than likely have the speed advantage against most fighters in his division so you gotta take it inside...
    Kelly Pavlik? He's been dropped by small middleweights and Jermain Taylor... Throw some overhand rights over that range finding jab of his.... Give him some movement... throw some punches in bunches... If you land one good shot, don't stop punching this guy...
    Miguel Cotto? Miguel's tough, but if you watch the way he holds his hands and his posture, you can see he's vulnerable to the uppercut... That's a punch that will work against him... Switch it up a bit and go inside... Dig to the body... But the uppercut will always be there....
    Bernard Hopkins? Get physical... fight at a high pace... and sustain it...
    Paul Williams? counter punch.... He throws a lot of punches... But has a leaky defense...
    Shane Mosley? Fight a tall guy's fight.... Jabs... followed by str8 rights/or lefts.. Do some sharp shooting... Most importantly, don't engage in a fight... Make it a boxing match at all times..
    Arthur Abraham? Has that pee a boo defense.... Very tight like Winky or Clottey... For the most part keep your distance and stick to the jab... When he goes defensive, start looping those punches around the guard... Every now and then, take a little step to his left and try and knock his guard open with some uppercuts ((as u can tell I love uppetcuts))
    Joe Calzaghe? Jabs and counter punching.... He throws a lotta punches and even though they can be slappy, you can tire out tryna keep up with him.. Mixs some faints in there... More than likely, he'll bite... That's where the right hand will come into play...

    add on....

    I think I took this post a little too serious.....
     
  6. 4Rounder

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    Manny Pac?
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    Floyd Mayweather?
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    Kelly Pavlik?
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  7. PH|LLA

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    Pac - Good ring generalship combined with counterpunching in combination.

    Floyd - A great jab / straight left, potshotting with speed. Keep him out of range.

    Dawson - Pressure and stamina

    Pavlik - Make him lead and counter him. Beat him with accuracy.

    Cotto - Outmuscle him and take him into deep waters.

    Hopkins - Fast combinations from a distance combined with good stamina

    Paul Williams - Make him lead and counter him with accuracy.

    Shane Mosley - Stick a jab in his face all night, combined with good stamina and strength

    Arthur Abraham - Potshot him to a decision.

    Joe Calzaghe - Counterpunch his flurries with accurate right hands.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

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  9. imp4pdabest

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    Gameplan to beat _____ Convincingly?

    Manny Pac? Rico & that other bum
    Floyd Mayweather? UNBEATABLE
    Chad Dawson? Get someone bigger
    Kelly Pavlik? Get a 44yr old
    Miguel Cotto? Bricks, Cement, Plaster
    Bernard Hopkins? Powder & a slap
    Paul Williams? Carlos Quintana
    Shane Mosley? Take away the steroids aka $2K Vitamin B12 pills
    Arthur Abraham? Put someone in the ring with him half decent
    Joe Calzaghe? Find someone under 39, & in their prime
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could write ten pages on this subject...Great Thread..Its late so I will attack it tommorrow...Great Thread thou, I cant wait to read more of the replies.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Pac... A mix of intelligent pressure and counter punching. He leaves plenty of opportunity as he leaps in and out committing everything on his punches. Right hand leads are there all night, as is the right hand counter. If possible, push Manny back as he loves to be able to control the distance of the fight which is his best defense. If you can press Manny he becomes much less effective. Manny's strongest moments are when he is lunging into his shots. His speed allows him to close the gap faster than his opponents and he pops back out before most can react. So... the key points would be to pressure him so that he can't control the distance. Stay tight and use the jab and straight right leads to keep him honest. Once you have him fighting your fight at the proper range, then you are in the position to counter punch when he leaves his openings.

    Floyd... Make Floyd come to you. Use a good strong jab, and keep it pumping all night long. The jab helps neutralize his speed. Now, flat out REFUSE to chase Floyd down. Floyd loves for his opponents to take all of the risk as he stays in his shell and picks them apart, because they are too over anxious to put their gloves on him. Make Floyd come to you, take a half step back every time that he punches and force him to be the one who over-commits on his shots and capitalize on the openings that he gives you. Other opponents have shown that you can be effective with a good jab, and you can also be effective countering when he takes the lead and presses forward. That's the key to beating Mayweather. Make him come to you, and make him lead.... force him to open up and that will provide you with your opportunities rather than draping yourself on him while he is shoulder rolling your shots and counterpunching.

    I will try to get back to the rest later. It's too damn late.
     
  12. owell

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  13. imp4pdabest

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    DLH, Hatton, Corrales - Had NO CHANCE IN HELL
     
  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    these you cannot beat convincingly until you KO them with a lucky punch:

    Manny Pac?
    Floyd Mayweather?
    Miguel Cotto?
    Arthur Abraham?
    Joe Calzaghe?

    these you can beat by pressure and brawling

    Chad Dawson?
    Kelly Pavlik?
    Bernard Hopkins?

    And these by cleaver boxing (either jabbing and countering or inside hi work rate)

    Paul Williams?
    Shane Mosley?
     
  15. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the art of hitting and not being hit...