An odd result for a pirme Jack Johnson?

"The truth and facts should be enough".
That's rich,how about "185 lbs was a good weight for him"?
Or, "at 192 lbs for Burns he was in the best condition of his life"?
Johnson never weighed under 200lbs when he defended his title and himself stated his best condition was 208 lbs when he fought Jeffries.
As usual ,you are selective with the "truth and the facts".
But never fear I will make sure you keep on the straight and narrow!:nono

 

Maine has a strange boxing history from those times (the early 1900's). First they banned boxing altogether. Then they decided to allow it, with the bouts ruled "draws" if nobody was knocked out. Later they limited the bouts to 6 rounds. Later still, they made a rule that bouts would be ruled "no decisions" if nobody was knocked out. It wasn't until the late 30's that Maine finally allowed won/lost decisions. Evidently, Jack Johnson fought Billy Dunning during the "draws" period, and didn't knock Billy out for whatever reason. I guess nobody sent a knowledgeable reporter for that particular fight, so no newspaper decision was given.

 

I think it is refreshingly objective.

Johnson has the greatest PR campaign in history of boxing. He is not half the fighter of Langford or Dempsey.

 

Im not taunting you M just amused by your obsession with a man who has been dead 62 years, for the record I think I have bested you in all our debates on Johnson .ps Are you lapsing into street jive with that phrase "you owned "? Or is that a grammatical error ,ala _ VITLAI?
Did Johnson make a pass at your Granny?

 

He did quite well winning every round against Langford then didnt he

 

Taunting the dyslexic is wrong McVey

 

He also beat Langford,McVea, & Jeanette a grand total of 13 or 14 times, for the "Colored" Heavy Weight Championship & only lost once in a decision to Jeanette. How many times does the man have to beat someone to convince the public he's better; 20? 25? If he fought them that many times I am certain they would eventually beat him.

If Johnson had never beaten these guys so many times there would be a point to be made about him 'dodging' ,but Johnson had beaten them all.

The only fight he missed was a very young/inexperienced Harry Wills(who had shockingly beaten Langford for the "Colored" title in 1914 ?) when Johnson was a 36 year old semi-retired international fugitive.

And as for Jeffries he had ample oppurtunity to fight Johnson ,who chased him for years, before he retired . Jeffries even admitted after has beating in 1910 that there was a reason he had dodged Johnson & that he "NEVER" could have beaten him.

 

..... seems odd your words have been left without agreement, or arguement.. I'll accept your view, until other beg to differ. I wondered about the Maine rules of the time... maybe you've added some credit to the story. Cheers.

 

just left of topic....did johnson really fight, and lose, to a featherweight in his last pro bout. ?

 

..............that's pretty far left.

 

yeah..i know

but in 1938 he fought and lost to walter price...who was listed as being a featherweight...it was johnsons last pro bout.

i dont know too much about it...just curious.