Sal Sanchez, one of the truly great ring generals

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think. Even at 22, he shows the stuff. Here are the last three rounds against Ruben Castillo:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z26nmM1CtV8



    The cards are close to even going into the last three rounds of the fight. Sal wins 14 and 15 absolutely cleanly and 13, more than likely (though Castillo has a case). He does this by punishing every little mistake that Castillo makes - and keep in mind that this is in the championship rounds of a tough fight. Sal wins on all cards, the closest one is 147-144

    His blocking and manuevering is also absolutley world class - Castillo is basically boxing on the run and punching in flurries, but Sal is on his case for every single second, great steady pressure. That's the most impressive thing about the performance for me - he doesn't lose his cool for one second, despite the pressure, despite the apparent opportunies, despite a running opponent. "Show me a man that never loses his cool, I'll show you a dangerous man" - Roy Jones.

    Please forgive Howard "I Need a Colour Man So Badly I Shouldn't Even Be Allowed Into The Both On My Own, They Should Have Two Keys To Activate The Door To The Thing, Like With The 80's Style Nuclear Bunker" Cossell's commentary (including calling punches that land as having "missed" and punches that are pretty tight, "wild" because they miss).


    Some questions for you gents:

    1 - How highly do you rate Sal's generalship? Who does he have for comany in this department?

    2 - Which other fighters have this type of late-fight composure over 15?

    3 - How do you rate Castillo? Poor ******* had four title shots - Sal, Chavez, La Porte, Arguello :-(
     
  2. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice post McGrain. Hey I'm biased but for good reason.

    1- I rate his ring generalship extremely high. I'll be so bold as to mention him in Monzon's class for ring generalship. Always seemingly in control and sure of the outcome. That's what I remember about these two guys.

    2 - Arguello? Although Arguello lost a couple fights late (Marcel, Pryor), he never seemed to lose his composure. I think Sal's late fight composure was as good as any body.

    3 - Very good fighter. Certainly could have been champ in a different era. Not a big featherweight, he seemed tiny against Chavez.
     
  3. Danny

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    I can't speak highly enough in respect of the late, great Salvador Sanchez. For me, he was truly a remarkable fighter & they certainly do not make fighters like him any more. Most definately a rare breed, a special boxer!

    Sanchez, to this day, is still the most composed fighter I've seen over the course of fifteen rounds whilst being under immense pressure at times from his opponents. Somehow, Sanchez always remained calm, composed, as if he knew it was a matter of riding the storm & then make his punches count, which he did time & again!

    For a guy who was so young, 22, Salvador was highly experienced. If he was around today, he would dominate 126lbs & 130lbs in my view.

    Sanchez was a big feather, 5'7, & it was no secret he didn't find making weight easy towards whatg would turn out to be his last few fights at Featherweight.

    A move up to 130lbs would have happened. In respect of a bout against Arguello - I'm not sure that would have even happened because Arguello's days at SFW were long gone.

    Sanchez-Arguello would have been a great fight, but in the end, I think Arguello would have been too big, too strong. Arguello was a fantastic fighter aswell.

    Damn, the guys around now aint **** compared to guys like Sanchez & Arguello. Different class completely!
     
  4. McGrain

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    I agree with you that he should be rated this highly. I think Monzon is a good shout in terms of type-comparison. Neither one of those guys ever loses his cool. Another poster asked of me recently - can you find an action shot of Sal with his mouth open? I couldn't. He does things properly no matter what the circumstances - that's rare, rare.

    What 22 year old compares, really?
     
  5. McGrain

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    Nice post, aside from Monon, who do you think does compare to him over the 15 round distance in this regard.

    Anyone else?

    Anyone feel the three of us are going a bit far?
     
  6. RDJ

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    Not me, I fully agree. I can't think of many boxers with movement that fluid either.
     
  7. McGrain

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    :good

    Consistantly fluid, too, it's like anything he can do in round 1 he can do in round 15. That's unreal.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Not at all, Sanchez had incredible rhythm while never seeming to panic or get worried or out of pace.
     
  9. natonic

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    I'll add also that his coolness in the pocket against legendary punchers (Lopez, Gomez) is of Terminator-like proportions.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Well said, which leads me to yet another description.

    Incredible confidence and self belief.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

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    Sanchez was a natural
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was so well conditioned that his heartbeat would return to its resting rate in the corner between rounds. He actually knew just how to box to bring his heart rate to a specified level during training sessions. He may have been the most cardiovascularly well trained athlete during his generation. (John Madden certainly thought so.) His body was a true precision instrument.

    I don't know how well he would have done during the moribund 12 round era, but he was the definitive 15 round competitor. He was the most confidently patient champion since Monzon that I had the pleasure of watching. Danny Lopez was known for his endurance as well as his punching prowess. Sal inexorably ground him down twice. Not as fluid as Gomez, yet he destroyed him in stunning fashion. With his youth and dedication, who knows how long he could have continued? (My guess is that he might have gone on until the disastrous abolition of the 15 round distance.)
     
  13. GPater11093

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    i have this fight on dvd havent watched in a while so will fish it out and watch it and tell you about it

    i thought he was a brilaint ring general and so patient and mature for his years
     
  14. leverage

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    Shanchez was well on his way to boxing immortality when he died. The distinct thing that i remember about salvador was his coolness in the ring. He always had that poker face (like joe louis) and never seemed to get excited or become distracted from his fight plan. While he didn't do any one particular thing great he did everyting well. His abilities were spread pretty evenly across the boards and this combined with ring itelligence made him what he was.

    One more thing about him was his exceptional stamina. He would look as fresh after 15 rounds as he did when the fight first started. I don't know if this was because his lungs were naturally larger than most ( Boston celtic great john havlecheck had this trait) or if he was just a master of pacing himself. Whatever the case, it was truly amazing.
     
  15. McGrain

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    :lol:

    Beautifully put!

    That is really, really interesting stuff D.