Steve Bunce Rips on Aussie Boxing!

Fenech yes i agree ( Well done ) ,However Kostya is a Russian who learnt his trade in Russia & Vic Darchinyan is an Armenian who learnt his trade back home in Armenia , Just because they jumped ship after having a bit of sucsess in the Olympics dosen't make them Aussie , so in effect your statement backs up my opinion that a young fighter should move to europe to fight when he has beaten all in Australia , BTW whether you like it or not the scene in Europe is matching and in MOST cases out doing America for audiences when it comes to live Boxing , second tier ? No way mate , i know your feelings were hurt by my original comment but its just the way it is .

 

Josey me mate, you've made a good amount of sense.. even for a Brit. :rofl... Joking mate, your comments are true, and direct. Effectively, the Aust. public have been somewhat conned/drained by several talented fighters, with lacklustre career achievements on the world stage. Several hold worthwhile attempts.

Danny Green, IMO, made a genuine attempt to take serious bouts.. world title bouts O.S. Kats is a fine fighter, with an uncertain future, as few men fighting his way have long term careers.

Craig Trotter, having faught both Chris Pyatt and Michael Watson felt, the
indignity of losing a Commonwealth title to Mickey Hughes, by half a point... correct me if I'm wrong.

There's an element of risk, for all fighters, regardless of country of birth, to face whilst abroad... hence, I feel the current crop from Oz are staying home to make the available cash, and keep a career record impressive.

Robbie Peden schooled himself in the States.. will great returns..

Rick Thornberry ventured to the U.K.. boxed well against Joe Calzaghe, full credit to him, as Joe is a legend now.

Paul Briggs was another with the ability to kick goals against any seasoned Brit..

Mick O'Malley 'fluked' a Commonwealth Title against McSwain?? Must have been the intro music (the theme from 'neighbors') that baffled McSwain.

Sammy Soliman spent a long time in the UK.... the Eastman result is said to be debatable... perhaps you know more??

As it is, credibilty in the game... on all levels, is limited to 8-12 big names, at any given time, therefore, a ridiculous amount of local bouts create a degree of bias, even for the local lads with no international experience.

Your words in the previous posts have given a better balance... however, bias will endure.. Oi Oi Oi..

Cheers mate. :good

 

As it is, credibilty in the game... on all levels, is limited to 8-12 big names, at any given time...........

Thats what im talking about , the level of comp fighting towards a world title tilt is limited within the S/Hemisphere , take Mr buisness for instance , he made a decent fist of it v Sturm for a while but post fight he returned down under fighting 6 rounders v guys who were never going to test class like him in reality , imo he would have done a whole heap better if he had decided to stay in europe fighting blokes with a tad more depth , that way he would be still in the spot light and probably knocking on the door this time next year at another attempt @ World honours with a better chance of succeding , Even a thick taffy like me can understand this . :nut gotta run , working away for a while lads . Peace .

 

I'm not offended by your comments. It's just that they are ignorant.

Tszyu & Darchinyan had extensive amateur backgrounds in their native countries but have fought exclusively as professionals out of Australia.

They hold Australian citizenship and I have taken great enjoyment from seeing them reach the pinnacle of the sport (an undisputed world championship) fighting out of this country.

In Vic's case, he worked the Australian club show circuit for several years to attain his no.1 world ranking. He would not be the unified world champ without the contribution this country made to his development (including the contribution made by the likes of Jeff Fenech & Billy Hussein as his trainers). To this day, his main sparring partners are the likes of Lenny Zappa, Billy Dib, Lovemore & Hussy Hussein.

The facts are if you are good enough, it's possible to reach the pinnacle of the sport fighting out of Australia. That's not a bad claim for a country that is half way around the world from the principal boxing market in the world, the US, and the second biggest boxing market, Europe.

We've turned out plenty of high quality second tier guys as well. Of course they need to get overseas experience (whether it be through fights in the US or sparring) but suggesting they need to set up shop in Europe is delusional.

Contrary to what you've suggested, plenty of overseas fighters come to Australia looking for an opportunity to launch professional careers. I think the success of the two guys I mentioned (plus plenty of others) more than indicates we're very well equipped to give it to them.

 

Man the poms seriously cream in their knickers when ever they happen to be better at something then us..lol..

Poor *******s still cant get over the fact they sent their convicts over to what would eventually become the greatest country to live at in the world,whilst the are stuck in dreary old Britain.

Bunce's comment about oz boxing was as funny as it was stating the obvious..

Bet it took him and his writers 3days to think of that one liner..

 

I love your passion for Australia, and like you, i lived in the UK for close to 2yrs. My point is, whatever country u are attached to, of course the bias will filter through.

P.S Your Convict joke is as funny as the bunce joke.......... get my point :good

 

:nono testicles I'm afraid.

All in, Australia has never had that many great fighters, never mind per head of population etc or heritage (whatever the **** that is).

 

???? .... a suggestion Oz fighters have no balls... courage.. determination..intestinal fortitude??????

 

no. your post was testicles. and big hairy ones at that.

 

Mad fail and full of aids.

 

Good post.
Many Aus boxers can make it to the top. It's much easier for australian fighters to obtain world title shots than it is for Euro fighters, but the problem is that more often than not, our fighters don't get the adequate build up fights.

 

I know what you mean.

I remember the excitement surrounding Spike Cheney when he won the Silver at the Olympics in the 80's

Although Spike failed to go on with it at the pro level, he still had a good public platform to work from.

 

Mate if you don't think an Australian boxer would benifit from spending time in the Northern Hemisphere prior to having a tilt @ world title honours then your the ignorant one , also stop putting words into my mouth with the intention of swaying a disscusion your way , NO ONE said its impossible for Australia to provide a home grown genuie world champion .