Dawsom - Adamek

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  1. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Adamek looks very solid.. But people always diss Dawson saying he really hasnt proven himself..

    Can I get some background on this fight, was Adamrek weight drained, or was he just outclassed..Havent seen the fight, just the scorecards through boxrec.
     
  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek was both badly weight drained and badly outboxed, to answer your question. King had kept him out for a year in 2006, and Adamek had weight problems ever since, at 175 (he had also turned 30 a few months before).

    Adamek came in trying to counterpunch with Dawson, but his reflexes were not up to par.

    He lost 8 of the first 9 on my card, before becoming more agressive in round 10 and hurting Dawson. All in all, it was still Dawson's best win, but Adamek was not at 100%, or close to it.

    I would like to see a rematch at a catchweight, with neither man drained.

    A rematch would make a lot of money this year.
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Accurate by my recollection.

    Even though Adamek was getting thoroughly outboxed, I think he can do better in a return bout, and possibly win--especially if it were at 200 pounds.

    Something clicked in Adamek's head later in that fight, and if you take away the questionable knockdown in a round Adamek was winning, that's a 3 point swing potentially.
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Dawson moves all the way to 200 lbs.

    This fight could happen at a catchweight of 190 lbs (or 185).
     
  5. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way Adamek ever see's 185 again. He's filled out so nicely at 199. And Dawson won't get close to 200. Not healthy at all for his chin.
     
  6. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek still has a higher bodyfat %age than he did at 175, when he was healthily making Lightheavyweight (see Ulrich and Briggs I fights).

    He actually SHOULD be fighting at 190, and with the proper regime, could make 185 without sacrificing reflexes and stamina, IMO.

    dawson could move to 185 in his next fight with ease, 190 is probably as far as Chad would want to move up, if the money was right.

    I don't see Chad going all the way to 200 for one fight (it would mean staying there and vacating his 175 crown).
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    If/when Chad moves up this fight has to be made, and it will be amazing.
     
  8. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree.

    Both are still in their primes, right now.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Honestly Dawson-Adamek, win lose or draw - is a better fight legacy-wise for Dawson than Kessler, Calzaghe or Hopkins would've been. Too many obvious (and legitimate) dismissals for a Dawson win in any of those. Adamek and Johnson (at least for the next year or so...although who knows, the man is full of surprises) are his biggest challenges and convincing repeat wins over either (or hell, both) would net far more legitimate credit among legitimate fans than even a dismantling of Kess/Calz/Hops might have.

    Of course if Tomasz could avenge the loss he'd be very difficult to rule out of the HOF conversation, especially if he supplemented that with wins over at least half of the current top ten crop at 200 (nobody in that field in unbeatable for him, and that does include a revenge-minded Cunningham). I don't like heavyweight for Tomasz, to be honest.
     
  10. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Someone explain to me how being weight drained allegedly, effected Adamek. I would think it would of sapped his stamina more so than anything else..But he seemed to have more than enough energy to keep pressing forward and applying pressure like he always does and he took some serious body shots that would of slowed him down if not stopped him. Adamek was coming forward getting popped with speed and accuracy and Chad would beat him on the inside as well even though he didnt have to be there. Adamek is not an infighter. Dawson's style just murders the stand up European style. Thats why Kessler would get a worse ass whoopin if he ever got the balls to step up.
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Adamek was badly drained and it affected his performance clearly but that still doesn't mean Dawson didn't outclass him that night.
    But then again Banks wasn't doing too bad for the first rounds either....
     
  12. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Good point. But the Dawson - Adamek result was never in doubt. Well, maybe for like 20 seconds in rd 10. Chad then proceeded to stay aggressive and finish the fight on even terms.

    Adamek - Banks always looked close. Dawson - Adamek was a 9-3 beating.
     
  13. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have no idea what his excuse was, but he just had no reflexes whatsoever in that fight
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah,I guess.Even if it were to go on points last night the result prolly would have been conclusive,Adamek was winning round after round.
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm tired of these bull**** weight drained excuses. Adamek got outclassed against Dawson. Adamek had plenty of energy for an allegged weight drained fighter. Cunningham isn't as talented as Dawson and he outboxed Adamek.(unfortunately he kept leaving his chin exposed) Campbell was weight drained against Funeka and won. Hopkins was weight drained against Taylor and could've easily gotten the nod. Being weight drained doesn't cause youn to lose pretty much every round like Adamek did against Dawson. The weight drained theory is just a **** poor excuse by Adamek fans. Adamek fans need to face reality. Adamek is a damn good fighter. However, he's not better than Dawson even on his best day.