p4p-GSP or Anderson Silva?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by brandon9624, Feb 22, 2009.


  1. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup Leites is no Alves what are Leites best wins ? a bullcrap decision over Marquardt. Alves is coming off violent victorys of 3 top 10 Welterweights.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    How is Alves much better than Leites?? He beat Koscheck (who took the fight on short notice) who just got embarrased Saturday night. He came in at 200 pounds against a shot Matt Hughes. He beat Lytle, BFD! And Karo..lets not go there. Im just not overscrutinizing these wins but those are the realities. I like Alves, love his stand up and TD defense...I take those qualities alone (without his resume) as giving him a shot against GSP.

    He did beat big names but take a closer look. Matt Hughes was shot and Kos was a hard fought decision.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    The MW division was good but was there an elite void that Silva filled???

    Without GSP taking over at WW, Hughes was/is a legend. BJ was/is a legend. Were there any Hughes or BJs at MW?

    I remember Hughes being considered the best WW ever and GSP has fought him 3 times. I think BJ is considered the best LW ever and GSP fought him twice. I can't put Franklin in this sort of class though Henderson is a true P4P win.
     
  4. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    even though i'm a huge GSP fan i think for right now i give it to Anderson. going up to 205 and getting a first minute KO edged him slightly ahead for me. I know Irvin isn't the cream of the crop but he is a soild light heavy
     
  5. St-Laurent

    St-Laurent New Member Full Member

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    I would say GSP

    he is not affraid of competition, good condition and excellent attitude.... complete fighter!
     
  6. brandon9624

    brandon9624 Member Full Member

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    How could Anderson Silva be a more complete fighter? He has beaten everyone the UFC has put in front of him in no more than three rounds. 7 of his 8 ufc fights have ended in less than 2 rds, two subs - rear choke+tri angle choke, two kos from knees, one tko from knees, a tko from punches, one ko from punches. What else does this guy have to do to end this argument?
     
  7. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    mmmmm maybe that Dana start to giving him TOP competition. Don't fool yourself, you know there is a problem when he face Thales Leites, a guy who doesnt deserve that title shot.
     
  8. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They need to force his ass to fight at 205 with the big dogs. Unless hes facing GSP at 185 I honestly dont care about his Middleweight fights he is a league of his own. Stick him at 205 and you got big matchups lets say he beats Leites and wants to move up he could face Keith Jardine,Rampage is he loses would still be an attractive fight,Forrest Griffin is a great matchup,Liddell-Shogun winner great great fights there.
     
  9. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think forcing him to do it is the right option because he could just turn around and tell Dana to go **** himself. With talent like Silva's and a good amount of MW competition outside of the UFC, Anderson could easily make money and fight good comp in Strikeforce, Affliction, Sengoku or Dream. He isn't going to LHW anytime soon I don't think because of his friendship with Lyoto Machida.
     
  10. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    **** his friendship with Machida.

    Jardine and Evans are great friends, but they still fight in the same division.

    If there is no GSP-Silva at MW, then let him face Maia, and after that, put him in the 205 for good. At least there, he can be bulliyed. For god sake, he walk arround 220.
     
  11. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd say its a bit of a different situation in that Silva and Machida are actually likely to grab the belt and therefore more likely to fight each other. Whats the point in Silva going to LHW and not even trying to get the belt. Not mention Silva would probably blow through the majority of that division. I know that I would already pick him over half the top 10 LHWs.

    I'd also say that generally Brazilians value friendship very highly. At least it seems that way to me. They're so passionate. I mean look at how many brawls a team like Chute Boxe used to get into purely because one of their guys was beaten. They had beef with Gomi, Hammer House, Rampage, 'Krazy Horse' Bennett, BTT.
     
  12. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is flat out wrong. GSP is better in every aspect of grappling and it isnt close. You'll never even see him use his guard to compare.
     
  13. jones1

    jones1 Active Member Full Member

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    I'd say Silva. dominates everybody standing up and in his guard
     
  14. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely.
    Be it through BJJ or Wrestling GSP is a much better grappler.
     
  15. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Silva is better in all levels of striking its very not close, its embarrassing to compare. While Silva is a BJJ BB. And here you go saying that Silvas ground game aint close when hes submitted top fighters on the ground. Besides the corpse Hughes, who has GSP submitted??..and yes i forgot he rnc'ed Trigg just like everyone else.

    GSP is a better wrestler, this aint complicated.