p4p-GSP or Anderson Silva?

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  1. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, Silva's BJJ is criminally underrated.
     
  2. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    oh and which top fighter he did submitted?
    Dan Henderson who was eating HARD BLOW to the head clean and who werent able to stand on his feet no more?

    or you talk about that fat **** Lutter(great BJJ guy yep) who was already gassed in the first round and who failed to make weight?
     
  3. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do know that Hendo has only ever been submitted by Big Nog and Anderson Silva.

    And he's been in against guys like Bustamante, Arona, Palhares, Sobral, Renzo Gracie and not been submitted. Saying he was eating hard shots is not an excuse for him getting submited. Hendo couldn't do ANYTHING in Silva's guard. That right there is better than any submission GSP has pulled off.
     
  4. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    submission isnt everything in grappling my friend.

    And yes being badly hurt over strike make you very prone to submission once on the ground, especially vs black belt.
     
  5. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not talking grappling overall. I specifically said BJJ. Obviously GSP has better wrestling. Anyone who says otherwise is ******ed.

    I would say GSP is the better overall grappler, but Silva has better BJJ or similar levels at least and it is underrated.

    And I'm still not buying that bull**** that the only reason Silva sunk in the submission is because Hendo was hurt. That is irrelevant. Every other ****er who fought Hendo could have hurt him then subbed him, but did they? Besides, they were on the ground for a while before Silva sunk in the choke IIRC.
     
  6. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, you say that the submissions don't mean as much because he hurt the guy with punches. I say that using his strikes to set up easy submissions against guys that are almost never subbed shows his well-roundedness.
     
  7. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    im not saying the contrary.
     
  8. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If anything its overrated, in pure or in mma terms his jiu jitsu is nothng special.
     
  9. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes.

    I have no idea why you quoted me.
     
  10. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just stop now :lol:
     
  11. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the **** do you know?
    That's what I want to know. How did you determine that Silva has better BJJ? Because he uses it more often? Yea, well he's been fightin off of his back while GSP hasn't. GSP doesn't need to fight off of his back because he can use his superior wrestling to get to a more dominant position. The ease with which he passes peoples guards? It's ridiculous. Submissions are ALWAYS reversable, there for a higher failure rate than good old pounding from a dominant position.

    The fact is, until GSP actually has to use his BJJ we'll never know whos better.
     
  12. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    whey they fight, and GSP pass Anderson's guard, we will know:hey
     
  13. brandon9624

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  14. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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  15. alewaboy52

    alewaboy52 Member Full Member

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    fact----anderson silva has not lost a single fight in the ufc, or have any of his fights had to go the distance