Well... you said it yourself he looked great in Japan and then he looked like ****. Its not like people are still saying he looks beastly. I think everyone is pretty realistic about Shogun. I also think everyone, somewhere deep inside, still want him to be like he once was.
Liddell was good at beating up grapplers. Didn't do so well against other people that could strike. Always thought Matt Hughes was rated too high too.
Wouldn't Alastair Overeem and Vitor be considered strikers? Besides, Liddell fought whoever they put in front of him, its not his fault the top guys at the time were grapplers.
no ill back you all the way mate.. he went from nobody to king of mma overnight.. i think hes a c+ fighter with A+ marketing.. i know he works very very hard though and deserves his success..
Tito ****ing Ortiz. Every mma fan knows the story between him dodging Liddell, while Ortiz was the poster boy for Ufc. He's a good fighter, I mean he almost beat Rashad Evans and Machida, but blatantly ducking someone when you're champ is very unfighter like.
Liddell bet the best which are normally grapplers in mma; took out pele and white and put mezger an overeem in the hospital Hughes also beat the best, having either the best or second to liddell run as champ
Liddell got hammered when in with someone who could strike as well as he could. Great fighter still but lucky he wasn't in pride too much. Hughes had weak comp I think. Once GSP nullified his strength he looked quite ordinary.
Weak comp ? The man has wins over Hayato Sakurai,BJ Penn,GSP,Frank Trigg 2x,Royce Gracie(Royce I know is in the past but Hughes tooled him in the ground game which is fairly impressive)Prime Carlos Newton 2x ETC. Hughes was a great great fighter.