With the Demolition of Diaz, Did JMM overtake Barrera and Morales in ATG Rankings?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With the Demolition of Diaz, Did JMM overtake Barrera and Morales in ATG Rankings?

    MAB and EM are ranked by many in the bottom of the top 100 ATG, with the win by JMM, did he overtake the two?
     
    asero, Feb 28, 2009
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  2. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Diaz is nothing and he is a bit overrated here on the forum for years.
     
    angelos, Feb 28, 2009
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  3. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    he has to beat pac to solidify this claim.
     
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  4. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I say no,not yet atleast.He has maybe a couple of years left and is moving upto 140 and can become a 4 weight champ and overtake them by doing so.Either way,all 3 are greats
     
    djoc175, Feb 28, 2009
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  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    i would like to say yes but barrera and morales' body of work at 122 and 126 could not be ignored. i guess one more big win over joan guzman for a lightweight unification or just a win over pac to leave no doubt.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Feb 28, 2009
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  6. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    He's level. He beats Pac or Mayweather he overtakes them.
     
    LightningJoe, Feb 28, 2009
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  7. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They're not ranked in the bottom of the top 100, they're ranked towards the middle 43 and 45 if I remember right.

    MAB was at his best probably at 122, and did his best work there. EM also wasn't EM once he moved past FW. I think JMM has some more work to do, but he could get there if time doesn't run out on him.
     
    bernie4366, Feb 28, 2009
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  8. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Difficult assessment and I'm too loaded to think about it now, but he's definitely a legit threat. JMM is like the US mail. He always delivers.
     
    Salty Dog, Feb 28, 2009
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  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i say yes...he KO'd diaz and the true 135 King..plus two close fights with Pac..and a #2p4p rankings...i say he is higher than azumah nelson now
     
    asero, Mar 1, 2009
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  10. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i say no.if he wins a 4th title most definitely
     
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  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    being the true 135 champ by KOing real contenders and two close wars with pac, it's enough to put him above barerra, morales and nelson
     
    asero, Mar 1, 2009
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  12. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Barrera and Morales had much better careers than JMM. How can beating Juan Diaz make him one win from overtaking them?
     
    MAG1965, Mar 1, 2009
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  13. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he KO'd a guy that was bigger than him...do you honestly think that JMM is a legit LW?
     
    asero, Mar 1, 2009
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  14. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    not exactly a demolition. it was 4-4 before the KO in the 9th. a demolition is 8-0 or 7-1 and then winning via KO.
     
    Chert, Mar 1, 2009
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  15. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    when you demolish a building, it means tearing it down...and that is what JMM did, he teared down diaz physically and breaks down his pride
     
    asero, Mar 1, 2009
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