Really? Did Hops tell you that? How about the fact that to be #1 you need to fight the #1s, something Pac has only done ONCE in his last 10 fights. JMM is rightfully the #1 P4P fighter.
Outside his last 2 win JMM had done nothing to warrent him a # 2 spot ..So lets not get all crazy the # 1 spot is reserved for Manny who holds a win over JMM !!! And has had more success in diffrent weight classes than JMM !! But I didn't need Hopkins to tell me that maybe u do buddy I don't Manny is # 1 ..:deal
Technically a the lineal champion beats the last "undisputed champion" in the division and has their title stripped because of not paying a sanctioning fee or not fighting a mandatory. So neither Barrera, Pacquiao, Marquez, or Morales has done that in any division but they seem to award linage to fighters that are not that. Morales has 2 of the 4 major belts. I was almost certain he was awared lineage though. Morales was stripped of one of those belts when he fought Barrera. BTW Marquez has been closer to being an undisputed champion than Pacquiao has at 126, and 135. He had 2 of the 4 major belts. Both only had 1 belt at 130.
No one awards lineage. The rules are skewed. In the historic sense, you had to unify the WBA and WBC titles. With the addition of 2 more major sanctioning bodies the water has become murkier. Now, a lineal champion seems to be when a #1 fighter fights the #2 fighter in a division. But who is to judge or deem who is #1 and #2. Its a very slippery slope, which is why I tend to stick with the traditional terms of WBC and WBA titles.
*******s hate the truth. Diaz barely got past a fighter that was named Erik Morales. That was not Morales though. David Diaz is weaker than any champion Marquez ever beat to win the title. He beat DLH. He definately gets credit for this win Oscar was much bigger but come on DLH has been on the slide for 5 or 6 years now. Pacquiao gets as much credit for beating Barrera the 2nd time as Marquez should. Both fought a very good fighter but definately not a prime Barrera. Larios? Please like you said old and 2 divisions north of where he should be fighting. Linares proved that. Jorge Solis Who? Velsquez Who? Like you said probally about 70% of the boxing community had JMM beating Pacquiao that night. *******s cry more about that fight than JMM fans and he won it. He gets credit for beating Morales the 2nd time though. He got his asskicked in the first fight. JMM has never took a hiding like that. Pacquiao has 3 times now. Morales was kicking his ass again but Pac broke him down and stopped him. That was all Morales had left in his carrer though.
Floyd Mayweather is the best P4P fighter. Marquez is not as good as he seems. If Diaz had world class power for that class, Marquez would have been good somewhere in the 3rd round. He says he wants Pretty Boy, now the last person that moved up in class got knocked the **** out. Right Ricky Hatton. In my opinion Ricky will beat Manny and Marquez had better get the winner out of those fighters or try his luck at Sugar Shane, but Mayweather is too fast and he hits you at all different angles, Marquez would not be able to keep up or even throw that weak ass uppercut. You can't what you can't catch or block what you can't see coming. If it happens then I will pick Mayweather in a 10th round TKO. As for marquez is best fight will be with either Shane Mosley or the winner of Hatton vs Pac. Though it seems as if Pacman doesn't want a 3rd fight with Marquez, so if Pacman wins then he has to make the fight with Mosley or even give Diaz a rematch or maybe a rematch with John, who already beat him already. But the rematch with John might come after John's rematch with Rocky who he fought to a draw Saturday night. So in the mean time Marquez wants to move up so like I said its got to be Mosley, I don't he is stupid enough to try his luck at Cotto now that Cotto is on a mission. But you never know. So which fight do you think is best for Marquez right now. (A) Mayweather (B) Cotto (C) Hatton (D) Pacquiao (E) Mosley (F) Diaz
good point but pac is still # 1. Pacman dominated his last 2 fights winning every rounds while marquez had to dig deep to win his last 2 fights. people can put down pacman's win over diaz all they want but nobody thought pacman would dominate him the way he did. Delahoya was a 2-1 favorite in the fight and many thought pacman would get knockout and now that pacman destroyed him, everyone wants to make excuses bout delahoya's weight etc etc while no one wants to give pacman the credit for having a great gameplan and executing it. best example of how much greater pacman is to marquez.. watch their fight against barrera in 2007. Pacman dominated barrera while marquez was KD in the 7th round :good
This above is the problem with boxing. Dominating crap competition is not better than fighting the best competition and winning by KO. Who cares that Pac beat two guys who were not even top level opposition. JMM beat two top fighters in one of the best divisions in boxing, and two fighters who were arguably in the top 20 P4P ranks. Yes we did. We all knew how slow and one dimensional Diaz was. We were all asking why Pac was fighting the weakest belt holder. Pac won because DLH is old, and was totally weight drained, anyone who says different doesn't know boxing. That was a DLH who was 10% of what he once was. Pac was KD in the 1st against Barrera. Styles make fights. Is Israel Vasquez better than Pac because Vasquez KO Larios in three while Pac when to a decision??? You're a *******, so your ignorance is somewhat excusable.
pac got KD'd in the first barrera fight in 2003? there was definitely no punch there. pac's foot got tangled with barrera and he stumbled, then cortez called a phantom KD. that's the reason why pac doesn't get cortez anymore to ref his fights.
pac beat marquez. beats delahoya who gave floyd a tough fight only a year earlier. posters like uliuli are talking crap saying pac cherry picks opponents. in retrospect yes we can say oscar had problems with the weight. but we did not know that before the fight. everyone was against pac. now to say he was cherrypicking is stupid. pac is still number one till he is beaten. look at the ring magazine if you want clarity.