Now I see Why Fighters don't want to leave their home country

Now I see Why Fighters don't want to leave their home country. Most fighters who leave their country never really get a fair chance to win if it goes to the scorecards.For example, Everybody knew that there was no chance for Chris John to win a decision in Houston on Saturday.Chris John was lucky that the judges gave him a draw for clearly beating Rocky Juarez.I think Boxing should do what most professional sports do and fly their best judges to the biggest fights.

 

Chris John got lucky to get a gift over JMM in his home country.

 

I know that's another example to my point. It wasn't about Chris John. I just used him as a example.

 

Welcome to boxing...Where have you been the last 100 years?

 

There must be something to change this. Boxing should fly in their most experience judges and ref for their biggest fights so they wont be such a big disadvantage for international to leave they're home countries to fight. It sad that we never saw Kessler come to America yet and also look at what happen to Sturm when he fought ODH in America.

 

This is a major problem, agreed.

I think you have to consider this when you criticize people for sitting out in their back garden. If you leave your home country you want to know you are going to be treated fairly, and this does not seem to be the case in a lot of instances.

For example, Felix Sturm went over to the US and got jobbed. Now it is a case of once bitten twice shy. Of course it works in reverse that he could possibly be the beneficiary of hometown cooking in Germany.

Overall I think this is one of the main obstacles in matchmaking and getting the fights we want.

 

:yep Yep...and it doesn't seem that the "known" judges necessarily help either. Seems that promoters have influence on them in some way for sure. It certainly seems in a lot of cases that atleast one of the 3 is in the pocket of main promoters fighter. This is when we see the ridiculous SD's ALL the time. 2 judges will be similiar and near on page, while the 3rd will be all out for the other fighter, not chosen by the other 2. Coincidence? Maybe...maybe not.

One example for me is Christian Mijares, he would on a couple of occasions have scores reading 117-111, 116-112, 108-120....WTF?!


Another example that bothers me is Julie Ledderman on HBO cards....with her daddy having his long time job of being the unofficial scorer for HBO, now tell me she's not in line with who HBO wants to win....Bull hockey too.

 

Boxing is unfortunately full of curruption and greed. It is all about the money no matter what country your from. A clear KO ends all that, but a fine boxer as one poster mentioned in Mijares could box your ears off and scoring comes in shady. Well, this been going on before alot of us were even born. At least the fans always knows who really won, not by these sometimes bogus judging.

 

Agreed:good

 

Add a 13th round. Problem solved.:deal

Kind of.

 

It sounds good. Can boxing fixed this problem? i hope so we can see some fighters who are afraid to leave their home country come to the U.S. or anywhere else.

 

Beenie, for this fight a 13th round would be horrible under the circumstances of the judging. Rocky started to pick-up at the end. Think about it, a draw + a good 13th round. And new champion, Rocky Suarez. Wrong. Poor scoring for this fight anyway, but I would not go against a 13th round if it was being suggested in the future.

 

i agree Chris john would have been robbed if there was a 13th round but what can they do about the horrible judges. Can they make it tougher to be a judge or only fly in the top judges for big fights? I dunno but if more robberies happen boxing is going to have a problem.

 

what about Calzhagi vs Hopkins? alot us had Hopkins down as the winner but the judges picked Calzhagi. Well 2 out of the three.

 

Could have gone either way,that is the definition of that fight.Plus it was a SD.Plus it's very hard to give a fight to a guy who only lands one right hand at a time when Calzaghe adapted and was throwing accurate and many punches.