who hates wlad and his bull****

I'm torn on this one. I don't consider myself a Klit "hater", I enjoy watching Vitali fight because of his toughness and style. While I find Wlad boring and would love to see him get KO-ed I'm not going to sit here and say he's not a good fighter or anything like that. In a Haye-Wlad matchup i'd probably on Haye's side (though i think it would probably be an easy fight for Wlad) just b/c Klit's had his run. But as soon as that was over I'm sure I'd be looking for an American to hopefully beat Haye.

 

WALDO and VITLAY still can't find a fair coin to toss.:-hey

 

i like him, he's boring though but.....compared to all the other bums/mediocre fighters in the division, he looks great

but if he doesn't fight Haye, my feelings might change

 

Bingo on the double standard issue.

 

He's not diverting the subject, it's related. If Wlad is only the best because it's such a weak division than of course comparing it to other divisions is very relevant.

I remember when Wlad wasn't champ everyone was saying that there's no clear front runner & that was the problem with the division. Now that he's the champ and he dominates his opponents it's only because the division sucks :nut You just can't win with that warped logic.

 

Thats not my logic you refer to.But you're right.
The division is poor though.Not picking on individuals but it can't be denied,it is **** poor:-(

 

If I remember correctly we were both fans of Jeff Lacy, a hard hitting African-American fighter with a good chin. I picked him to KO Calzaghe late myself. :-(

I also like Tszyu, Felix Sturm, Edison Miranda, Aurther Abraham, etc. Obviously I'm not picking my favorites based on skin color or what country they fight out of.

 

:rofl You don't actually believe what you just typed, do you?

 

Let me be the first to turn this post on it's head:

Back in the 90's we had too many black fighters from the USA such as Tyson, Bowe, Mercer, Seldon, Holyfield, etc. The Brits had Lewis & Bruno, both black.

Guess what? I still watched all the big fights regardless of the lack of white euro or soviet fighters.

 

Bingo!

 

You're correct here, just ask Zakman what he thinks of Lewis. :rofl He ranks Holyfield ahead of him all time. :rofl:rofl I don't.

 

Tarver - 40 years old
Johnson - 40 years old
Jones - 40 years old
Hopkins - 44 years old
Woods - 36 years old

Love the double standard.:good I bet half way through this post you were thinking "holy ****... these divisions are definitely not deeper than the heavyweight division".:yep

 

Does anyone posting in this thread think Bowe Holyfield I wasn't a great fight?

What about Bowe Golota I & 2?

 

I think these guys don't appreciate the diversity of styles in the HW division. You have good inside fighters like Chagaev, outside type fighters like Dimentrenko & Gomez, great power like Wladimir, great chins like Valuev & Vitali, souhpaws, etc.

 

:good

And Wlad is a very good example for a "world citizen"!