The most overrated/overhyped fighter in boxing!

Solid Chin · Mar 3, 2009

p4pdabest said: ↑

He's not p4p the best, i'm p4pdabest
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lol, I wasn't referring to your username bro.
Im sure you know what I was on about.

Solid Chin · Mar 3, 2009

MAG1965 said: ↑

Floyd has the ability but he does not have the confidence. Calling me an idiot doesn't make Floyd a great fighter. If he retires now he goes down as not even top 100 p4p. You can defend him all you want. He never fought a prime HOF fighter. All you can mention in Hatton and Corrales. You proved my point. Genaro was finished when Floyd fought him, and Floyd getting fighting of the year proves how bad boxing was in those years. Never been knocked down because he has picked his opponents wisely and always faced guys he is much better than. The guy has all the ability to have been a great fighter, but ability has to be matched by fighting the best and beating them. He does not have the confidence to risk it all for that ranking. For him to come out and say he is the greatest ever by beating Corrales or Hatton is ridiculous. He has been bad for boxing. He could have fought Cotto or Margarito and he didn't. We all know why. Too risky. If he lost he could not run his mouth about how great he is by beating up guys like Castillo. Then you have guys like Pacman who fight all the best and win -guys like Pacman are good for boxing. JMM fights them all also, and Mayweather is better than JMM. But heart has a lot to do with boxing. Actually that is who I think Floyd will fight next because he can beat JMM who would be moving up in weight and slower than Floyd with a big name.
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Spot on, Mayweather is still upto this day the most overhyped fighter because he has never challenged himself, he picks fights he knows he is going to win. Apart from being the most skillful of this era the guy dont want to test his ability against someone who he will be a considerable underdog against at 147. Its a ****ing joke and so many people on here are hypnotised by this ****.

Carnage · Mar 3, 2009

Jeff M said: ↑

1)Ricky Hatton-his being in the top 10 p4p is a joke. He has never beaten one elite fighter in their prime. He cheated his way to a victory over Kosta who was aging and mostly inactive for three years. His only attempt to beat a great fighter in their prime ended with him being KO'd by a ring post. He somehow is being hyped by the Brits again for beating feather-fisted Paulie the Drag Queen.

2)Pac-Man-the Pac-Man hype express is so out of hand he his bound to fall hard except he won't fight one young elite fighter who is not past their prime which his arch-rival JMM just did. Barely beating JMM and fighting two human punching bags in one year does not make you p4p #1 or great. He has only fought one style of top tier fighter (all were past their prime).

3)Carl Froch-Maybe he should change his name to Carl Fraud. His biggest accomplishment is running his mouth and being obsessed with Calzaghe. He has not beaten one world-class fighter and yet has a belt. He will be back to fighting journeymen in the UK when Jermaine Taylor is done with him.

4)Arthur Abraham-Once again who has he fought other than Euro-bums? Oh, he fought Miranda, got his jaw broke and took 2 fights to KO him while Pavlik destroyed Miranda in half-a-fight. Pavlik will beat his turtle shell down with ease, especially considering the way AA sits on the ropes. The only thing he is King of is fighting nobodies.

5)Amir Khan-never has beaten anyone of significance and was KO'd by a C glass fighter who made him dance off a jab. He has a glass jaw and a glass heart. A Mere Con. Will be no surprise if a shot Barrera KO's him.

6)David Haye-David Hype is much like Carl Froch in that he has hardly proved a thing but never shuts up. His china chin is as bad as A Mere Con's. He has been knocked down and knocked out by glancing blows. He's holding out as long as possible to keep building the hype but his china chin will be shattered if he ever actually gets the courage to fight Wladimir or Vitali.

7)Alfredo Angulo-he is a bad copy of Margarito. Very one-dimensional and not as good of a chin. El Perro is more like a Shitzu than a Bulldog or Pittbull. Kirkland would destroy him within 2 rounds. He is too easy to hit. Has no defence or skills to speak of other than decent power.

8)Kendall Holt-What is there too say. His only claim to fame is a fight he won by a head-butt, otherwise he would have been stopped in the first round. Bradley will make him look foolish.

9) Chad Dawson-dropped by one dimensional Adamek and then fought two senior citizens, barely beating one of them. A questionable chin.

10) Adamek-Very one dimensional. Has never beaten anyone that was very good. Cunningham and Banks are average at best and Cunningham almost beat him, even after getting dropped various times. The most Robotic fighter in the world.
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This guy loves the Brits!

Raider Rudy · Mar 3, 2009

Paul Williams belongs in the top 5 of that list:smoke

enzo · Mar 3, 2009

Katsidis!!!

Jeff M · Mar 3, 2009

Gamboa is a good addition. He's a KO waiting to happen. He is getting knocked down by nobodies just like Khan was. Only a matter of time before his china chin is shattered like Khan's was.

carias · Mar 3, 2009

Sting said: ↑

MAB was PRIME and ELITE when Pac fought him in 2003. I posted that in your other thread btw and you didn't bother replying on it. Oh and Morales of the 2nd fight would have beaten every single YOUNG and PRIME fighter of that time.

Old Morales and "old" Marquez >>>>> Guzman, Soto, Valero, etc etc etc. As usual, you have a weak ass reason and do nothing but hate on Pac.

How's the pie btw? The humble pie I mean? Hope you eating it after JMM's KO of Diaz, when you said it was the other way around. :deal
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not zahir raheem i guess...whatever he had he left in the first pacquiao fight, as seen by feather fisted raheem hurting him in their fight.

NeckBreaknAiken · Mar 3, 2009

Miguel Cotto is by far the most overhyped boxer here on ESB.

His fans act like he has absolutely no flaws and weaknesses. He is a great fighter, one of the best WW right now, but people act as if he is some superfast, superpowerful, superskilled, supertough, KO artist. Not even close.

He has an average defense, less-than-average chin, average stamina, better-than-average speed, good power, decent footwork, and an overprotective promoter.

Fire1 · Mar 3, 2009

Jeff M said: ↑

1)Ricky Hatton-his being in the top 10 p4p is a joke. He has never beaten one elite fighter in their prime. He cheated his way to a victory over Kosta who was aging and mostly inactive for three years. His only attempt to beat a great fighter in their prime ended with him being KO'd by a ring post. He somehow is being hyped by the Brits again for beating feather-fisted Paulie the Drag Queen.

2)Pac-Man-the Pac-Man hype express is so out of hand he his bound to fall hard except he won't fight one young elite fighter who is not past their prime which his arch-rival JMM just did. Barely beating JMM and fighting two human punching bags in one year does not make you p4p #1 or great. He has only fought one style of top tier fighter (all were past their prime).

3)Carl Froch-Maybe he should change his name to Carl Fraud. His biggest accomplishment is running his mouth and being obsessed with Calzaghe. He has not beaten one world-class fighter and yet has a belt. He will be back to fighting journeymen in the UK when Jermaine Taylor is done with him.

4)Arthur Abraham-Once again who has he fought other than Euro-bums? Oh, he fought Miranda, got his jaw broke and took 2 fights to KO him while Pavlik destroyed Miranda in half-a-fight. Pavlik will beat his turtle shell down with ease, especially considering the way AA sits on the ropes. The only thing he is King of is fighting nobodies.

5)Amir Khan-never has beaten anyone of significance and was KO'd by a C glass fighter who made him dance off a jab. He has a glass jaw and a glass heart. A Mere Con. Will be no surprise if a shot Barrera KO's him.

6)David Haye-David Hype is much like Carl Froch in that he has hardly proved a thing but never shuts up. His china chin is as bad as A Mere Con's. He has been knocked down and knocked out by glancing blows. He's holding out as long as possible to keep building the hype but his china chin will be shattered if he ever actually gets the courage to fight Wladimir or Vitali.

7)Alfredo Angulo-he is a bad copy of Margarito. Very one-dimensional and not as good of a chin. El Perro is more like a Shitzu than a Bulldog or Pittbull. Kirkland would destroy him within 2 rounds. He is too easy to hit. Has no defence or skills to speak of other than decent power.

8)Kendall Holt-What is there too say. His only claim to fame is a fight he won by a head-butt, otherwise he would have been stopped in the first round. Bradley will make him look foolish.

9) Chad Dawson-dropped by one dimensional Adamek and then fought two senior citizens, barely beating one of them. A questionable chin.

10) Adamek-Very one dimensional. Has never beaten anyone that was very good. Cunningham and Banks are average at best and Cunningham almost beat him, even after getting dropped various times. The most Robotic fighter in the world.
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Kostya kod judah in nov. of 01, beat tackie in 02, kod lieja in 03, kod mitchell in 04 and QUIT when he faced hatton 6 months later!! all boxing fans at the time knew kostya was a prime 140 champ and concidered the best 140 of all time when hatton beat him...

hatton then unified with a KO against WBA CHAMP maussa, went up to 147 knocked WBA CHAMP collazo down in the first in route to a decsion, beat the current 140 IBF CHAMP urango by 119-110 (11-1) on all 3 cards, KOd FORMER RING CHAMP castillo with one body punch, lost against P4P #1 mayweather, and then he tkod the #1 contender and IBF CHAMP Malignaggi...... THATS 5 RIEGNING CHAMPS HATTON BEAT and that is concideder to be nothing?????

and your #2 is PAC for being overrated???? that alone should show everyone what a joke your top ten is.... i wont even comment on that stupid a$$ statement....

youve managed to say the current ring cruiserweight, lt heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight, jr welter #1,2, lightweight champs are all frauds...

and the excuses you use are just ******ed: you claim alot of these guys havent beaten anyone: hatton, haye, ademeck, dawson and they are ring champs for christ sake how ******ed are you.. yet you left out kessler, klit, and berto WHO IN THE HELL HAVE THEY BEAT

and then you go on to say manny has only faced one style of fighter that was in their prime.... again i wont even comment on that stupid a$$ statement...

gr8fight · Mar 3, 2009

MAG1965 said: ↑

Floyd has the ability but he does not have the confidence. Calling me an idiot doesn't make Floyd a great fighter. If he retires now he goes down as not even top 100 p4p. You can defend him all you want. He never fought a prime HOF fighter. All you can mention in Hatton and Corrales. You proved my point. Genaro was finished when Floyd fought him, and Floyd getting fighting of the year proves how bad boxing was in those years. Never been knocked down because he has picked his opponents wisely and always faced guys he is much better than. The guy has all the ability to have been a great fighter, but ability has to be matched by fighting the best and beating them. He does not have the confidence to risk it all for that ranking. For him to come out and say he is the greatest ever by beating Corrales or Hatton is ridiculous. He has been bad for boxing. He could have fought Cotto or Margarito and he didn't. We all know why. Too risky. If he lost he could not run his mouth about how great he is by beating up guys like Castillo. Then you have guys like Pacman who fight all the best and win -guys like Pacman are good for boxing. JMM fights them all also, and Mayweather is better than JMM. But heart has a lot to do with boxing. Actually that is who I think Floyd will fight next because he can beat JMM who would be moving up in weight and slower than Floyd with a big name.
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Prime Castillo was better than Cotto and Margarito . I just hope Floyd comes back

imp4pdabest · Mar 3, 2009

NeckBreaknAiken said: ↑

Miguel Cotto is by far the most overhyped boxer here on ESB.

His fans act like he has absolutely no flaws and weaknesses. He is a great fighter, one of the best WW right now, but people act as if he is some superfast, superpowerful, superskilled, supertough, KO artist. Not even close.

He has an average defense, less-than-average chin, average stamina, better-than-average speed, good power, decent footwork, and an overprotective promoter.
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:good

Loggo · Mar 3, 2009

rydersonthestorm said: ↑

Haye has never been koed as a pro he has been tkoed once so this just shows you know **** about boxing.
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Don`t get wound up mate,Jeff M is a Brit hating moron.

Jeff M · Mar 3, 2009

BazookaJab said: ↑

Valero. Just the other day, I heard he was stronger and faster than Pacquiao. 'Nuff said.
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Pac-Man would never fight Valero unless he was shot.

Jose Rizal · Mar 3, 2009

Jeff M said: ↑

1)Ricky Hatton-his being in the top 10 p4p is a joke. He has never beaten one elite fighter in their prime. He cheated his way to a victory over Kosta who was aging and mostly inactive for three years. His only attempt to beat a great fighter in their prime ended with him being KO'd by a ring post. He somehow is being hyped by the Brits again for beating feather-fisted Paulie the Drag Queen.

2)Pac-Man-the Pac-Man hype express is so out of hand he his bound to fall hard except he won't fight one young elite fighter who is not past their prime which his arch-rival JMM just did. Barely beating JMM and fighting two human punching bags in one year does not make you p4p #1 or great. He has only fought one style of top tier fighter (all were past their prime).

3)Carl Froch-Maybe he should change his name to Carl Fraud. His biggest accomplishment is running his mouth and being obsessed with Calzaghe. He has not beaten one world-class fighter and yet has a belt. He will be back to fighting journeymen in the UK when Jermaine Taylor is done with him.

4)Arthur Abraham-Once again who has he fought other than Euro-bums? Oh, he fought Miranda, got his jaw broke and took 2 fights to KO him while Pavlik destroyed Miranda in half-a-fight. Pavlik will beat his turtle shell down with ease, especially considering the way AA sits on the ropes. The only thing he is King of is fighting nobodies.

5)Amir Khan-never has beaten anyone of significance and was KO'd by a C glass fighter who made him dance off a jab. He has a glass jaw and a glass heart. A Mere Con. Will be no surprise if a shot Barrera KO's him.

6)David Haye-David Hype is much like Carl Froch in that he has hardly proved a thing but never shuts up. His china chin is as bad as A Mere Con's. He has been knocked down and knocked out by glancing blows. He's holding out as long as possible to keep building the hype but his china chin will be shattered if he ever actually gets the courage to fight Wladimir or Vitali.

7)Alfredo Angulo-he is a bad copy of Margarito. Very one-dimensional and not as good of a chin. El Perro is more like a Shitzu than a Bulldog or Pittbull. Kirkland would destroy him within 2 rounds. He is too easy to hit. Has no defence or skills to speak of other than decent power.

8)Kendall Holt-What is there too say. His only claim to fame is a fight he won by a head-butt, otherwise he would have been stopped in the first round. Bradley will make him look foolish.

9) Chad Dawson-dropped by one dimensional Adamek and then fought two senior citizens, barely beating one of them. A questionable chin.

10) Adamek-Very one dimensional. Has never beaten anyone that was very good. Cunningham and Banks are average at best and Cunningham almost beat him, even after getting dropped various times. The most Robotic fighter in the world.
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Whoever your favorites are. They're the most overrated boxers that I know.

Realspitts · Mar 3, 2009

Jose Rizal said: ↑

Whoever your favorites are. They're the most overrated boxers that I know.
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