Check out this latest Hatton interview, good grief

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the comparison between Hatton and Pavlik at middle weight is misleading;) as there is a bit of a nothing division in between 147 and 160 and people tend to think it goes Welter then Middle. There's 13lb gap with few recognised fighters at the nothing weight in the middle... people tend to forget...

    Anyway...

    JMM is now the no1 man at 135, pac is coming down in weight from his last fight to fight Hatton.

    Roach states that Pacs best weight is 140 (how i'm not sure - but that was before the Oscar fight), and JMM looked scintillating at 135.

    The two guys look very good at the weights, some say as good as they have ever been. Is it really such an issue where they came from? Surley it should be more based on what they look like fighting at the weight, when assessing how good a win over them is.

    I do agree though that the wins would perhaps have greater credibility if Hatton was moving up in weight himself.
     
  2. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Dawson is a better fighter than Adamek but I think a win over Tomasz does more for Hopkins's legacy than a win over Chad. The problem with a Dawson fight, also, is that he's tied up with Tarver until May and, if Bernard is going to fight again, he won't want to leave it that long. Where would he rank all time if he grabbed the cruiserweight title in your opinion?
     
  3. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    For Hatton to even have a sniff at becoming p4p #1 he would have to take on and beat the only man that has ever beaten him...victories over Pac and a PBF at 147 might seal it, throw in JMM and he is a shoe in.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I agree. Cruiserweight champion makes all the sense in the world at this stage, and Adamek seems to have a reasonable Polish following, whereas Dawson is still a bit of a nobody for some reason. Dawson is the better fighter mind, I think he's proven that.

    But yes, for achievement, and from a tactical viewpoint I can see this is a very attractive fight for Hopkins.

    I'm not sure exactly where he'd be now, I'd suggest 50ish, adding cruiserweight titles into his legacy would probably boost him another 5 or so places. It's hard to say exactly, its the achievement and longevity above the name "Adamek" we're ranking it for.
     
  5. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good

    The only way the "P4P Title" (as Ricky likes to put it) changes hand's in one fight is Marquez vs Pacquiao III.
     
  6. Healy

    Healy Former Wee Poof

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    Il some up my beliefs on hot topics in this thread

    Paulie v Hatton
    I called this wrong, more based on my dislike for Hatton and hope that Paulie could perform and put together some of his form prior to Cotto beating him. In truth Paulie wasnt good enough in that fight, Hatton was still easy to hit and was sloppy but Paulie wasnt up to it.

    Pacman v Oscar
    Not matter what anyone says, this was crazy. A munchkin comming up an hammering a bigger man, although over the hill. Pacman deserves some some credit for beating this one time great Oscar that most saw as favorite and that ran PBF close not many a year before this fight.

    Will Hatton be bigger than Oscar?
    No, not really, he will have to make weight at 140, he may bulk up to say 146-148 so technically he could be a bit bigger (weight wise). Oscar is 3 inches taller than Hatton, so his 146 will look thin compared to Hattons 146 per se, Hatton will look more bulky than Oscar but in truth there wont be much a difference. Nothing to say he will be huge compared to what Oscar was

    What does Hatton stand for?
    Long story short, BULLSHITING people. A general spoofness that appeals to the media and sells him as a nice guy type. Easy to see through. Probably is genuinely and generally down to earth, but is also lacking personality and esteem because he puts on this act and is very dated. His aim is to reach out to people with his tales/chat/promises and make himself look good.

    Hatton and P4P #1?
    About as close to it as W.Klitschko or Chris John is to be honest. Commands one division and does it well. Stepped up and struggles twice. P4P #1 fighters must command many different divisions, ala Mayweather, Pacman or Hopkins. Its a silly concept in a way and its even sillier that Hatton and anyone else even considers that he be a true P4P #1, he would probably have to beat Pacman and then move up and fight Cotto and Mosley. Its pretty trivial but for arguement sake, real P4P #1's have great scalps from a few different weight classes and credible wins which Hatton doesnt and probably never will have, so let the media and casuals talk all they want, as boxing fans we shouldnt be dragged into it.

    The fight itself,
    Pacman should win by mid/late stoppage
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's just great how you Scots, Irish and Welsh always seem to absolutely adore English boxers that are popular with the English public.
     
  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    That was quite well considered Healy apart from self contradictory psycho babble paragraph. Stick to the boxing eh?

    Hatton is usually around 152-153 on fight night these days IIRC, he'll be marginally bigger than Oscar was but, unlike Oscar, he'll be strong at the weight.
     
  9. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair I thought it was generally quite respectable apart from a few bits..
     
  10. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PBF is retired though...

    Also you seem to be setting very high targets compared to what PBF himself did for his no.1 ranking.
     
  11. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    :deal



    Got to disagree with you here. If Hatton was to beat Pac and then JMM you'd have say he was #1. As Jonoli says Pacman is actually coming down in weight and apparently struggles to make 135 so he is now a WW, so it wouldn't really be a case of Hatton bashing up a smaller man.



    I hope so, but in his 2 forays above 130 Pac has taken nothing back and surely Hatton (who's speed is underrated) will give him something to think about.
     
  12. Healy

    Healy Former Wee Poof

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    I retract nothing and my rant was well mannered and to the point:bart
     
  13. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you Rafa in disguise?
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Most of what Healy said were actual fahcts though.
     
  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    So when did he get his Physcology Doctorate?