Trapped on the ropes

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Brian Zelley, Mar 3, 2009.


  1. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    It is somewhat disappointing to watch boxers get forced into the ring ropes
    and rather than slide and spin to the right or left and counter with a safety punch or a heavy left hook or right, or even move back to the middle of the ring for control, they stay on the ropes and take punches to the body or arms
    or are on the receiving end of a series of bombs that end in the knockout.
    :nono
     
  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Unless they learn to fight on the ropes. It's not that hard but you can't pull it off against anyone.

    I think countering is very easy on the ropes because you can hang back, upper body movement is also easy if you don't have to worry about balance. Uppercuts are deadly from the ropes, look at Toney for instance. I do it rather often in sparring, voluntarily. Sometimes when I need a break, but also to stop people from trying to force me there. If it turns out that having you on the ropes isn't really an advantage, they will stop chasing you there.

    People tend to get wild when they have you on the ropes, so they walk into stuff while they're trying to swarm you. They also lean a lot, making them perfect targets for uppercuts (lean back and let them fall into one).

    But I agree you should also know how to prevent ending up there, or how to get the hell out of there should it happen unwillingly.
     
  3. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    Going there on purpose is a strategy, going there because somebody
    forces you there is a different story i,e part of the losing game.

    Getting wild if you have somebody on the ropes is another bad decision.

    For both boxes, it is still all about effective movement.:vonnecunt:hammertime:mj:dance
     
  4. curly

    curly Fastest hands in the West Full Member

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    Going on the ropes in amateurs should be discouraged. Your making the other kid look good to the judges, even if they aren't really landing and your at risk from a stoppage. My friend used to go "in the pocket", a bit like FMJ but it ain't the pros. You only have so many rounds.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i counter off the ropes in sparing alot even if i am forced on it. although now i normally move my head and slide to the side as i fight betetr guys. Occasioanlly i go into a shell on the ropes and counter but i normmally move
     
  6. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    Forget the "shell" game of chance and move to the right or left
    and own the middle of the ring:mj:dance
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    thats exactly what me and my trainer are working on stopping me doing it
     
  8. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    That's cool, in the gym is the place to master the
    ropes from ring rope to skipping ropes.

    It is all about learning, how to slide off of the ring ropes,
    and how to approach an opponent on the ropes.

    I remember once being on the ropes, and trying
    to wing an uppercut at the opponent as he moved
    in to attack. Pretty smart on my part - the bolo
    type punch went over the top rope and my arm
    was hooked on the ropes, and I paid the price
    of getting hit.:patsch:nono:wall
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    not good

    been learning that as soon as i feel my leg touch just spin off like Ray Robinson did.
     
  10. Perky300

    Perky300 Member Full Member

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    my coach tells me treat the ropes like an electric wire...the min the back of your legs touch them get the hell off them !
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Learn how to fight on the ropes and learn how to get off them. There are numerous skills to learn. Don't believe that you can't go anywhere near them.

    In the amateurs you want to stay off the ropes just because the system seems limited to any pro techniques. Move and if get near the ropes then you will to learn the most basic move at range - step to the side, jab or hook while pivoting to the left to create space.
     
  12. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The ropes can be a tool in your arsenal, if you know how to work them correctly. Many, many fighters neglect their management of range when they have you on the ropes - use this to your advantage by taking advantage of the opportunities presented to you - many fighters square up to enable themselves to throw endless hooks with both hands, and this is a perfect opportunity for you to counter with short, straight shots and pivot off to the side and put your opponent on the back foot.
     
  13. jordaw

    jordaw Member Full Member

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    Move your head, clinch, and get out. you dont have to clinch long. just grab him and move him.
     
  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Key word if, and I will throw this out there, if your an amateur boxer you want to stay off the ropes by all means if you can look at it from the judges perspective, they only see the back of the person on them ropes and the other guy throwing giving them the impression that the man who is not on the ropes is controlling the fight....

    even if you are countering off the ropes and blocking and slipping everything they dont see that if your back is to them all they see is you trying to get out of the way and the other man working....

    Yes the ropes can be a tool, but its best to save that for the pros.......
     
  15. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. With the current scoring system in am boxing, it can backfire.