Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye

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  1. CHEF

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  4. sdsfinest22

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    Show me 3 ATG Lists of any boxing historians, boxing analysts, ESPN, Ring, etc that has either Klitchko top 25 atg in HW division..:think

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    AND THE MAJORITY OF BOXING FANS, ANALYSTS, HISTORIANS WILL AGREE...MANY WILL AGREE IN ANY OTHER ERA THEY'D BE VERY ORDINARY!

    KO RATIO DON'T MEAN MUCH

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  6. imp4pdabest

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    Like I said, Haye's KO % is 100 at HW
     
  7. CHEF

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    Hey DICKHEAD...read the underlined part of your post I quoted... i never said anything about the ATG...what I said was.."says you" about your quote of "Klitschkos are not in the league of Ali, fraiser, etc"... and the others you mentioned.

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  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    You really don't understand the difference between an ATG list and being on someone's level as far as boxing ability goes... do you?

    #1. ATG lists are based on accomplishments.

    #2. Having accomplished more doesn't make you better than another fighter head to head. It just means that you accomplished more in your era.

    #3. Wladimir Klitschko is in his Prime right now... why do you expect him to be ranked among retired Greats from the past who already have a full body of work and are retired?:huh Can you actually wait until Wlad's career is finished before we argue about his ranking as an ATG? Was Lennox Lewis ranked high on the ATG list at 32 years old?:lol: Hell no... let the man finish his career and stop harping about the mythical ATG list all day long for ****'s sake.
     
  9. jisi

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    What bul**** excuses?

    I know it is the truth you. But i do not live in the past. But haters seems to to, lost to Sanders, Brewster. What about the other fights? Wlad had 55 fights with only 3 losses.

    Who brings the losses on the table? The haters not the fans.
     
  10. imp4pdabest

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    Okay. But you Klits fans always talk about his loss, which was only his 11th pro fight.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I really don't see Klitschko fans talking about Haye's loss all that much.:think In reality, Klitschko fans are usually just on the defensive from the nonstop verbal assault that the Hate Squad throws at the Klitschkos and their fans every day.
     
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  13. imp4pdabest

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    Its both sides, but there's just more Klit haters than Haye haters. Some of you guys really don't hate Haye, but you guys just defend your toy, I mean boy. But you guys do diss him for that loss.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I have said time and time again that Haye is a very talented and dangerous opponent. I have defended Haye when people said that he had a glass jaw, and I have said that I was fine with him getting a title shot. The only thing that I have said in a negative manner about Haye is that he is NOT in any position for Haye or anyone else to claim that he is being ducked by Wlad if that fight wasn't made. I have also said that Haye didn't do anything at Heavyweight to leapfrog over the other contenders for a title shot... in the manner of speaking that IF he didn't get one... it isn't as if he had been wronged. NOT in the manner of Haye isn't talented enough to be a top contender. I would have MUCH rather seen Haye fight a top contender on a Klitschko undercard to really hype this fight up even more. I just felt that Haye should have been out there fighting top heavyweight contenders, rather than just running his mouth through the media.

    The big difference is that you can see me giving Haye credit for his talent and abilities... you can also see my defending Haye when people say that he has a glass chin. The Klitschko haters spend night and day trying to discredit anything and everything about the Klitschkos and attacking their fans in the process. The same people who call Klitschko fans like myself a "rabid nuthugger"... when I am 2 threads over defending David Haye.:patsch
     
  15. imp4pdabest

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    Unfortunately, you're not the only Klit fan here. Many Klit fans diss Haye all day.