***The Official Golota Express! Bowe-Golota II - 19 years ago today***

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jun 18, 2007.


  1. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does not depend on me, amigo, it depends on Brisback if indeed he is true to his word. Meanwhile, it also depends on Golota. You'll never know, he might surprise us and fight before May 17.

    I don't care if I lose the bet or not. I just want Golota to fight his farewell fight. I know you want that, too. :good
     
  2. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am actually nicer than you think. :lol:

    GO GOLOTA! FIGHT AGAIN!!!!
     
  3. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All you people really want Golota to get killed by wanting him to fight again let the poor guy retire in peace, by not letting him gets brutaly koed again. Yes is fun to se him gets sparked and koed but man the guy is shot old, damage good and abroken fighter he can't take a good shot no more, and maybe in a few more fights getting punch drunk.
     
  4. Hoax976

    Hoax976 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have to agree, I dont think he should fight anymoe. But I wouldnt mind him having one final farewell bout against a Jack Basting type fighter.


    Shoudnt the Golota-Austin fight been declared a no contest? What exactly are the rules in which a bout is declared a no contest due to injury?
     
  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not sure whether doctor stopped or Golota ask for it?
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think he should have retired after the Mollo fight. That was the perfect time to hang 'em up.

    If he continues, I'll still be hoping for the best, but I can't imagine much good coming from prolonging his career at this point.

    He's too slow now.
     
  7. Hoax976

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    Not sure either. But i'd like to know what specific circumstances warrant a no contest should a fighter get injured. Regardless of whoever asked to stop it, there was no way Golota could have continued with a dislocated elbow. That is why I was thinking it should have been ruled a no contest instead of a TKO.
     
  8. Hoax976

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    You are right. But, all he had to do was get past Austin and he would of had one last crack at the title against Valuev. It was guranteed. Golota could not pass up the opportunity. And furthermore, Valuev is the most beatable title holder. He had to try. But as you said, it would have made for a better ending to his career had he retired after Mollo. But then, Golota has never given us happy endings, so maybe seeing him staring down with tears in his eyes after the Austin injury was the most suitable ending for a MOST disappointing and wasted career. :-(
     
  9. Soriano

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    How sad to see Golota agonizing after the Austin fight. Anyway, if that was his swan song, let it be. He has done enough and tried enough to snatch a belt. But it was not meant to be.
     
  10. Stinky gloves

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    Why do you guys think speed is the main factor?
    How fast is Valuev and how fast is Vitaly?
     
  11. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    Golota's biggest problem is he still does not come out properly prepared for battle, it's a ****ing fight, not a sparring show. He got hurt because he wasn't ready and then started doing desperate moves, hence the injury.

    Andrew needs to move smoothly on his feet, stay focused, and be smart. His power, conditioning, and skill is not the problem.
     
  12. Hoax976

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    Not only is he very slow, but at 41 years old, I think he is simply battle worn. Even that sloth McBride had Golota reeling like a drunk around the ring in the first round. Austin had him down in the first 2 seconds of the fight (literally).

    Even a prime Golota was always a nervous, slow starter, but no way in hell would he have been blasted out by Brewster or hurt early by guys like McBride and Austin. He's just old and broken down, it happens to em all. We were all hoping Golota could be one of the very few exceptions a la Foreman, but it was not to be.
     
  13. Hoax976

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    Actually, if you look at Golota's older fights (pre-Bowe), he was a very fast starter for a big man. That's how he racked up all those 1st and 2nd round KOs before Bowe when he was 28-0 (25KOs). It was only after the Lewis meltdown did we see Golota alter his style and lose his aggression. It took him 3 rounds to TKO part time stripper Jack Basting and took him 6 rounds to take out fat assed Eli (all the fixins) Dixon. He was never the same after the Bowe wars and the Lewis debacle.
     
  14. Soriano

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    An Old News on Golota

    Sports of The Times; Golota, the I.B.F. And Yet Another Disgraceful Caper

    By DAVE ANDERSON

    Published: Tuesday, March 23, 2004


    IT is boxing's first commandment, if not its only commandment: Thou shalt not break the rules because there aren't any.


    That commandment has seldom been more conspicuous than now with the disgraceful decision to deem Andrew Golota worthy of the opportunity to dethrone Chris Byrd as the International Boxing Federation's world heavyweight champion after only two sixth-round victories last year over journeymen opponents.
    Before that, Golota, a 36-year-old from Poland, had not fought for nearly three years, or since he quit in his corner in 2000 after two rounds against Mike Tyson.
    And before that, Golota's low blows in two bouts with Riddick Bowe detonated his disqualification each time as well as a riot in 1996 in Madison Square Garden that lasted a half-hour.
    Even in boxing's worst of times, you had to earn a heavyweight title shot with an impressive climb up the ladder, against another top contender or two. Reasonable behavior also helped.
    But all Golota had to do, apparently, was sign a promotional contract with Don King Productions.
    The I.B.F.'s rationalization for Golota's title shot is that he is now No. 15 in its heavyweight rating, which was posted March 11 -- nine days after King announced that the Byrd-Golota bout would share the Garden marquee on April 17 with John Ruiz's defense of the World Boxing Association title against Fres Oquendo.
    King surely knew the No. 15 rating was coming. Like any good courtroom trial lawyer, he knew the answer to the question before it was asked.
    But for all of King's trickeration -- his longtime smug synonym for what he and others get away with -- Golota doesn't deserve to be fighting for a third of the heavyweight championship: Vitaly Klitschko and Corrie Sanders are scheduled on April 24 in Los Angeles to determine the other third, the World Boxing Council version that Lennox Lewis vacated when he recently retired.
    If Golota is worthy of being the No. 15 heavyweight in the I.B.F. rating, your Aunt Emma is worthy of being at least No. 14.
    Golota's two disqualifications and one no-contest aren't the issue. Boxing is forgiving of misbehavior. The issue is that the 6-foot-4, 240-pound Golota's seven-round disposal of Brian Nix and his victory over Terrance Lewis in six rounds of his comeback last year did not register on boxing's Richter scale.
    Brian Nix? Terrance Lewis? Ever heard of them?
    The year before, Nix, now 34, out of Rochester, had a 17-10 record with only three knockouts. Lewis, 31, out of Philadelphia, had a 31-12 record with 21 knockouts but had lost to some fairly familiar names: Sanders, Clifford Etienne, Michael Moorer, Greg Page and Ron Guerrero.
    But on the strength, if that's the word, of those two triumphs, Golota suddenly got what dozens of aspiring and deserving heavyweights work for: a title shot.
    ''I can think of 37 guys out there who are more worthy of a title shot,'' said Pat English, the lawyer for Main Events, which promotes the I.B.F.'s No. 13 heavyweight, Dominick Quinn. ''It's not just because I represent Dominick, and it's not because of Golota's past. It's the principle involved.''
    Principle? Boxing?
    That's a contradiction in terms. That's why boxing can seldom be trusted to do the right thing. That's why boxing is often suspected of manipulation, if not corruption. Boxing isn't the N.C.A.A. tournament, where a winning team goes on to play the next winning team in its bracket.
    In boxing there are no brackets. Just rackets.
    When Marian W. Muhammad, the I.B.F. president, was asked Thursday in the federation's East Orange, N.J., office why Golota had suddenly been rated No. 15 after only two victories over journeyman opponents, she talked about how Byrd is not required to defend the title now against a mandatory challenger.
    ''It's Chris's optional period,'' she said.
    When she and the I.B.F. ratings chairman, Daryl J. Peoples, were asked if they knew the identity of Golota's manager, Peoples said, ''I don't know who's managing him, but he's being promoted by Don King.'' And the I.B.F. rating is typical of boxing's partial blindness. The I.B.F. rating doesn't include at least five of the best heavyweights -- the two Klitschko brothers, Vitaly and Wladimir, along with Sanders, Ruiz and Oquendo.
    ''If you fight for another title, you're not in our ratings,'' Muhammad said.
    Just another example of why boxing continues to decline in popularity. Too many governing bodies. Too many weight divisions. Too many one-third or two-third champions. Too many unworthy title challengers.
    ''You do the best you can with what you got,'' Muhammad said.
    The shame is that the best the I.B.F. and Don King could do was Golota with his 2-0 record and that no-contest with Tyson in nearly four years. An even worse shame would be if Golota got lucky and the I.B.F. had a heavyweight champion who didn't deserve the title shot in the first place.
    But that's boxing. Thou shalt not break the rules because there aren't any.

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    Don't you think that it is providential that Golota did not win championship belt? It would have the greatest farce committed by Don King, etal, in boxing. What a shame!!!!
     
  15. Bart

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    So now even the thread starter has stuck a fork in Golota...

    :boohoo