similar situation.... if he thinks the man at 135 is just a tuneup, then i was wondering what he thought about baldo....that's it
They can be looked as tune-ups based on ability when you compare to the likes of Pac or Floyd but still doesn't mean that they're completely garbage and hopeless, if they were they wouldn't have held titles and been considered #1. This isn't a popularity contest, if you're a true boxing fan you would know that every fighter has a chance. Being popular and hyped does nothing apart from selling tickets.
That highlighted word applies to you also. If you want to have a decent conversation, you can start by changing the thread title. Replace that "*******s" into "Pac fans".
My bad! Freddy is the moderator and he can't possibly ban himself for posting a flaming thread like this.
exactly... that's the main reason why i asked him cause i couldn't think of any similar situation....i mean, floyd was the p4p king, and faced a man who had the title of "the man" at that division......now he didnt completely dominate judah, but he won and a win is a win.... with pac, the new p4p king (in some eyes), was and is in a pretty similar situation with david diaz and casamayor.... in no way am i bashing floyd, just wanna know what philla thinks
Floyd vs Baldo was a case of an elite fighter being stuck fighting a jouneyman for the WW championship because Zab Judah is a choker. What can i say about that? I would compare Pac over David Diaz and JMM over Casa to Floyd over Gatti. Except that Floyd was also trying to make a name for himself against Gatti. But in terms of ability all those guys were just tuneup fights. I'll tell you what, Casa is in the lightweight tournament coming up. Lets see how far he makes it there. If he wins the tounament or even makes it to the final i will accept that Casa > David Diaz. but based on Santa-Cruz and Katsidis i just can't agree with that for now
real pac fans love JMM, *******s hate everybody but pac.....BIG DIFFERENCE BRO the funny thing is that this thread was only directed at about 3 people on here, but everybody else assumed (ITS THE ESB WAY ) they knew what i was doing and started bashing me...
It's clear why some people considered you a hater, you have been rooting AGAINST Pacquiao based on RACE numberous times. If the new members didn't spot it then old members here have so all this "no hatin' just lovin' BRO" is nonsense.
really...wow that's news to me. i was glad when pac put oscar in his bullying place... i was glad when pac boxed circles aroud mab 2... i was glad when pac whooped on david diaz... show me otherwise scar....
Who cares what they were I am saying what they ARE when they fought against their oppoenent. Glen Johnson KTFO Roy Jones, Remember that one? Danny Williams beat Mike Tyson remember that? **** you can be a great fighter in the past but if you're shot what does that mean on fight night. Did you not see David Diaz vs Erik Morales? And Erik Morales was even greater than Casamayor!
case getting a gift against santa cruz dont necessarily mean he's shot, i mean the man gave jmm some hell for some rounds, the same JMM who's had 2 controversial fights with pac, so i really find it hard to understand your logic here.....casa is still a great fighter and his resume shows
we'll see with the tounament. IMO Casa is a harder style to handle for JMM because he's less agressive than Pac. JMM is a counterpuncher so Pac's agressive style is really perfect for him. That doesn't mean that Casa isn't shot.
rocky juarez is a B level fighter, he's just like zab judah that he's been given so many chances cause of being in the olympic team and ****. Hell even solis was better cause he was undefeated the time pac fought him. casa is old past prime, got a gift decision and it was a wide robbery, he ktfo c level overhype katsidis and marquez struggled with him and i have him ahead of marquez during the time of the stoppage, baby bull he was nate's left over lol cant even put C level fighter katsidis away:deal