Can Valero dominate at 135?

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  1. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    I feel Valeros power will improve at this weight and he is a better fighter than people think. I do hope they insist on a vigorous mri health check as I really worry if he gets into a war with Marquez or Pac.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    i don't think Valero will ever get to fight against Pac and Marquez. He will have to build his legacy if he can against the guys of his own generation
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I quite like Edwin.

    After intially getting overrated, I think the backlash against him is a tad harsh.

    I think he could dominate, as the scenario PHILLA layed out is the most likely one. He will not get a shot at the elite fighters like Pac and JMM but he has a great chance against all the others that reside at 135.
    With Campbell gone, his chances of ruling have gone up.
     
  4. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    I believe you're right. Pac and JMM are way above Valero's level in terms of stature and both are now fighting at the higher weight class . . . so he may never have chance to fight both . . . but Valero has a chance to rule 135. He is very capable . . . all he has to do . . . is go for the big fights immediately. :yep
     
  5. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the problem with ko artists is that even though they may be successful at a high level, there will always be someone out there who has a great chin and therfore will present a huge problem for them. sort of like darchinyan at 112. he walways had power but had spotty defense and ultimately he got caught with a good shot. now he's trying to develop the other aspects of his game and i think he could have a better run at 115 and 118.

    valero will be a pretty good champ but he will not dominate. there are a lot of fighters out there who could beat him
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yes there are a lot of fighters who could beat him . . . but if he did beat them and unify the belts and hold on to it for sometimes . . . that's domination. :yep

    It remains to be seen though. :D
     
  7. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    He needs to fight first @ his Wt. Class against a breathing person, This century.
    But if by fantasy, he can dominate HW if he kept his Punching Power & grew some inches.
     
  8. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    He is about to headline a card with a good chunk of the remaining lightweight talent fighting on it aswell.

    I would say he beats all of them quite clearly..with Casa still giving him a stylistic problem for a few rounds. Guzman is another dark horse, who on his day could beat anyone from 130-135 but he is career has hit a wall for now.


    Thats kind of the point...I think he could well dominate lightweight not so much because of how good he is but how weak lightweight will probably become in the next couple of years as the elite fighters are drained out of the division.
     
  9. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. He's stylistically too beatable.
     
  10. danlop15

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  11. Ding

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    I'll give my buddy Anthony Peterson a call and ask him what he thinks.
     
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its easy to find an anecdote to his punching power..he is slow and his stamina is untested
     
  13. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not until he learns how to box.
     
  14. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    his chin is also questionable. a big punched with a good chin will post big problems for him
     
  15. boxbox

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    i want to see him fight any "known(prospect or mediocre or prime, past it) fighter."