Will Pacquiao Stay In The Pocket?

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    For generic reference sake - Is Pacquiao going to fight more like Calzaghe against Lacy with the slipping, lateral rolling, and short economic combinations locked in the pocket? Or will he surprise Hatton by launching forward with full power, both barrels blazing, like Mosley against Margarito? Will Pacquiao try and successfully attempt what Cotto did against Margarito in perpetually and methodically moving away and countering? (ignore these examples if you find them unsuitable)

    Now of course neither Hatton or Pacquiao are Calzaghe, Lacy, Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito - so obviously the specific details will be vastly different. Never mind so much the results of those fights - which method do you feel Pacquiao will actually attempt and is most natural and likely for him? Also, if you would; talk about what you think would be the best method in dealing with Hatton by your own account.
     
  2. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think pac is going to fight hatton pretty much like what he did against diaz. he'll stay on the outside and will occasionally unload combinations that will leave him open for hatton. if hatton can pinpoint these instances and catch pac, the fights is winnable for him. i dont think pac will pull out a calzaghe type performance because he is really nothing like calzaghe
     
  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Wouldn't Hatton have to fight like Diaz for that to have a snowflakes chance in hell of working? :huh
     
  4. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl Good point. But its should be the same outcome.
     
  5. futonrevolution

    futonrevolution Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see him approaching and backing away from Hatton with angles and arcs, trying to force Hatton to reset constantly and turn, especially from Hatton's right so he can't see the left hand too well. Flurries will come between rushes and in attempts to beat Hatton to the punch.

    I really can't see him doing the Cotto v. Margo; he'd rather force the action than counter and has much more faith in his chin. Letting Hatton win early rounds with aggression like that could be very costly.
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Truthfully, if Pacquiao is really on his game he'll be doing a combination of all three, and that doesn't seem at all unlikely to me. I'm confident he's going to start out moving away (because he'll have to), a bit like Cotto in the Margarito fight and himself in the De La Hoya fight, but once he feels comfortable (should that happen), he'll start with the Calzaghe/Lacy imitation a bit - more so than people probably expect.

    I can say right now (don't ask) that he's been working on the 'Manilla Ice' lead-backing-up (check) for this one, followed by some 45 degree verticle slashing and rolling/bending when Hatton falls in with his shots (and misses, they're hoping), and then Manny again with the heavy counter combination to end the exchange (then Manny moves out again).

    Manny will be backing up (because he'll have to), BUT leading, manuevering, then countering, then moving again. The surprising part will be to see Pacquiao successfully hit Hatton in combination after Hatton counters with his own counter. If Hatton is foolish enough to stop at any point or move backwards Pacquiao is going to seize on this as well. Both hands. Yes, full power AMAP.
     
  7. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    He needs too and if moving in and out doesn't work I don't know what will. He can't win going backwards.
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Hatton's movement alone would cut the number of punches Pacquiao landed on Diaz into fractions. That's what puts these two guys in different categories altogether. Can't be the same result because Pacquiao has to land the volumunious number of punches on the Energizer Bunny Hatton to do what he did to lead anchor footed Diaz. I know what you're saying though.
     
  9. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    A Wildcard gym spy!!! :yikes

    Please do tell us more? :hey
     
  10. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    4th Option, Pacquiao loses
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I totally agree with that, which is why I've said he won't win.
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Nobody from Wildcard would dare betray Manny so let's just put an end to that right here and there. :lol:
     
  13. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dude, i didnt say hatton will fight like diaz. he wont. that's why i added in the end that it will be up to hatton to catch pac while he is coming in. pac will rely, as always, to his lead left and his looping right from the outside. like what he did against diaz. he'll move in and out and step away when his opponent is about to throw a counter

    pac will make mistakes, even diaz had the chance to pull close and throw many punches inside however, he just did not have the power to hurt pac in the instances that he had the chance to. hatton will be much different but pac's gameplan will not be that far from what he employed against diaz. stay outside with occasional careless barrages.
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Where is "outside" going to be against Hatton?

    You tried to correct me, but it looks you're still having the same misconceptions. Hatton will be plowing in like a cowcatcher. PERPETUALLY. Pacquiao will have to stand and engage or move back. There will be nothing else. No time to reset. No "outside" to occassionally barrage from.
     
  15. MrMagic

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    He's going to get eaten up if he stays in the pocket, Hatton is a physically more imposing man.

    He need to move in and out.