Is this really the problem with Calzaghe and Mayweather?

Then why label PBF a cherry picker, when he fought the better competition.

 

Agree with the overall sentiment of the thread. It does appear that the "0" begins to define a lot of fighters the longer they keep it.

I've often wondered what would have happened if Castillo had been given the nod against PBF. Would Floyd have felt that he needed to take more risks to cement his legacy and have been involved in what are viewed as tougher match ups. Personally I think his pride would have pushed him to take more risks. In fairness he did give Castillo a rematch straight away after people were claiming he had lost their fight. This does show his fighting will at that point in his career. Who knows it could have ended up being the best thing that ever happened to him.

 

Because he was a cherrypicker. By any standards. And his resume is only better than Calzaghe's, because Calzaghe only ever fought at 168, until the very end of his career. Floyd went through various weights, picking off the opponents he thought he could beat, and avoided the ones that were probably a bit too tough for his liking.

 

You also have to respect a mans right to to choose when to retire.

But yeah, I generally agree with you, which is odd, because I'm fairly sure you're the guy who is always starting anti-British threads, and acting like a ****.

 

How? Wins over Hernandez, Castillo X2, peak Corrales, Hatton and ODLH at 154 is better than wins over 40 yr old shot RJJ, mediocre Jeff Lacy, Kessler, and Contravertial wins over 43 yr old Bhops, and Reid. Its not even close.

 

No he didn't he kicked ass at 130 & 135, at 140 he wanted both Hatton and Cotto but ***** ass Arum screwed it up, further more Cotto and Hatton wanted no part of him when he was at 140, As for SSM, ODLH twice got in the way of them fighting, first in 2000 because SSM wanted a crack at Oscar and then in 06 when Mosley claimed he had a toothache which really = Let the boss fight him. The other guys at 147 were not big names PW hadn't got started yet.

 

Fair enough :good

 

No doubt about it. For most of his career Calzaghe was an obscure belt holder, somewhere in Wales, who really hated flying and had zero personality, so the media, the fight makers, the TV networks - no one gave a **** about him. Only after Lacy and Kessler and then Hopkins, did Calzaghe become a "somebody", but the problem is that by this time he was 36 years old and craving retirement after two decades in the game, and ten as a champion.

Floyd was a name, an American, a recognized P4P fighter, who could have cleaned out any number of divisions, instead he choose to hop from one to the other, picking off the guys he thought he could.

I'm no Calzaghe fan, in fact I've gone into great detail in many threads why I dislike him, and think large parts of his career were a total sham, but at the end of the day, he did clean out, an albeit weak, division, and that lack of depth at 168 is one of the reasons why his resume is medicore for the calibre of fight his fans claim him to be.