What was the reason for Mike Tyson's downfall from boxing?

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  1. crazyboy867

    crazyboy867 Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson was amazing until he lost to Douglas. He was never the same. I dont know what went wrong. he was still strong, fast, quick but mentally he was out of it.
    there was probably so much going on around him during the 1990's that he lost focus on his boxing career.

    also don king screwed mike over too. but that was only 1 contributing factor to tysons downfall.
     
  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Mike was great.

    But the guy was mentally ill, most of his problems stemmed from that I think.
     
  3. The **** conviction, and lets face it Mike didn't have the heart to dig deep down in tough fight's:-( he never had stamina, and couldn't deal with adversity, that's why he was ko'd and quit against, Holy, because he knew he couldn't win so he punked out.
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Active Member Full Member

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    Mentally fragile no matter who handled him his career would've turned out the same way imo
     
  5. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree, I hope you remember how bad Douglas pounded him for what, 11 rounds? And even on Tyson's worst day and Buster's best, Tyson still almost knocked his ass out. Against Holyfield the first time, not only was being butted, but he was taking one some extremely heavy shots before the fight ended while Tyson was still on his feet. How about against Ruddick? He took maybe the hardest punch in boxing at time, "The Smash" and never went down and ended up getting the knockout win the frist time and the decision win in the second. Against Holyfield the second time, he was having a very good 3rd round, and then Holyfield went back to butting, Tyson said **** it and did what he had to do and reverted back to his street mentality. If Holyfield was in the street and had that happen to him, he would of easily been knocked out clean, all he did was turn his back to Tyson and jump up and down, he didn't look tough then when someone gave him back a taste of his own medicine, something a call "Street Justice".

    As far as Tysons downfall is concerned, I believe almost all the choices mentioned effected it. I think most of all was Don King putting his team in to train Tyson, if he would of stayed with Rooney I dont see him declining as quick, just my IMO though.
     
  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson's lost those who handled and managed him... Cus, Rooney, Jim Jacobs... etc., all for various reasons. With that team history goes down very differently.
     
  7. Mass

    Mass New Member Full Member

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    Tyson needed Cus, Cus and Jim Jacobs were the only people who had Tysons respect and he needed their love and guidance. Tyson on his own just didnt have the mental capacity to cope with fame and fortune. I genuinely believe he himself was a decent guy it was others around him that created a problem. Young Tyson was softly spoken, knowledgeable and engaging then Don King happened. Imagine being 20 years heavyweight champion of the world with millons of dollars and surrounded by yes men/women (Desree Washington included?), even with the best possible upbringing youre gonna make some poor decisions . Carnage and chaos but we loved Mike for it.
     
  8. Street justice dosen't cut it in boxing:nono Tyson did put up a good fight against Douglas, but Douglas fought the fight of his life, maybe because his mom just passed away??, **** Ruddock he wasn't nothing, Lennox ko'd him with ease, even Tommy Morrison beat his ass so what, Holy beat him 2x because he was mentally stronger, if the 2 of them met on the street today, Holy would still beat his ass because he's the tougher man..
     
  9. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    haha oh boy...where do you start w/ mike...the man just can't get right
     
  10. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Mentality. Many fighters got troubles outside the ring, but when they are to fight, they always were giving their best.
     
  11. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough, but Ruddick was a spent fighter after both Tyson fights. Holyfield beat him the first time, with a little extra help from his head. The second time he pulled the same **** and Tyson fouled him back his own way. Because if you remember in the first fight, Tyson tried to foul Holyfield back with a headbutt, but ended up hurting himself in the process, where his legs buckled from under him, Holyfield didn't feel the effects at all.
     
  12. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Don King took advantage of his weak mentality..
     
  13. NoCoolFool?

    NoCoolFool? Active Member Full Member

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    I don't remember it like this. I'd have to watch it again. But I remember, Holyfield getting bit...jumping up and down...and then turning around and going toe to toe with tyson until the round ended at which time is was called off.
    I think Tyson believed he wasn't going to win before that fight even started.
    And does your "Street Justice" include kicking the elderly after a traffic accident?? Face it - Tyson's always been a little off.
     
  14. Tyson knew he wasn't gonna beat Holy, thats why he bit his ear:-(he needed a way out..
     
  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teddy Atlas said it best in my opinion. To paraphrase - It was something like:

    When he was growing up in the Catskills, he was given a free pass whenever he did the wrong thing, because of his talent he was always given a leave pass. Teddy said something about him "not learning or given to tools to properly become a man" - I think overall that's about broad stroke a reason as you need.