Does Pacman have a single win as good as Hatton's over Tszyu?

Pac's a bum, DLH was weight drained, Barrerra was shot both times, and Morales was shot too (except in PAC-Morales 1), not to mention he was KO'd by cans, also JMM was robbed against him twice, overall...his resume is a lie, he ducked Chris John, he ducked Guzman, he ducked Israel Vasquez, he ducked Soto, he ducked Baby Bull, he ducked Cassamayor, he ducked Valero, Campbell, and even Khan and Gamboa

P4P King? more like P4P Fraud...he give real asian fighters like Nonito Donaire and Bruce Lee a bad name, if it wasn't for Freddie Roach's connections, bad decisions, gifts, robberies, and Bob Arum, that bum would steal be slangin stolen cigarettes on the corner

all in all...Pac's a joke

 

Id say its debateable as to who is number 1 between pac and JMM. yes pac dropped him 4 times, but dont forget, JMM must have outboxed pac to get the draw. and the rematch could have gone either way. In terms of a single win, i dont think pac has beaten any1 better than tszyu. After all tszyu is probably the best 140LBer EVER. But pacs overall resume is miles better than hattons.

 

Pac made them look overated by the way he won those fights.

 

Just like how he made you a joke

 

Pacman is, to me at least, the best boxer in the world and definitly is an ATG. However, I think that some of his fans think he is some amazing God of a fighter.

Manny is beatable just as Duran was, for example, but it's their attitude that makes them greats. However I think Manny's fans, well some of them, think that he's one of the greatest fighters to have ever graced the sport, that I disagree with.

 

kind of like Floyds fans or Calzaghes fans?

 

I honestly never thought Pac would reach this stage. I thought he would have lost most of his fight since ledwaba, including this one with hatton. He just keeps on winning.

 

I can understand Floyd's fans saying it because no-one ever beat him and he made most look very ordinary. Obviously Calzaghe retired unbeaten but, and hopefully this won't spark of a huge debate, his "Greatness" is based on 5 fights, Eubank, Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins and Jones...

Eubank - No (A faded fighter who took the fight at short notice)
Lacy - Yes (He was an amazing favourite to win that one)
Kessler - No (Kessler hasn't done anything since to suggest that he was anything other than a decent fighter who gave Calzaghe a tough night)
Hopkins - Yes (An awful fight but I think Calzaghe won)
Jones - No (Would have been embarrassed by Jones just 5 years before...)

Calzaghe's fans should not be comparing him to the greatest fighters of all time.

 

so basically you're a Floyd fan then?.....i knew i'd hit the mark with that, if you're not a fight of Pac, then you're a Cal fan, Floyd Fan, or JMM fan...

fact is....Floyd's beatable as is everyone, if SRR can lose, Floyd can too, beleve dat

 

Hell yea he does.. What do u call the Pac/barrera 1??

Beating barrera in 03 means a whole lot more than cheating and beating Tszyu who's resume is pale compared to the mexican.

 

I rate Tsyzu win as ne of the best this decade. You can say Kotsya was an old man but he was p4p #3 at the time and gave Hatton hell. Hatton was wrong style for the guy.

MAB was a better win. Both were p4p #3, Kostya was 36 MAB 29, Pac jumped up a weight class to demolish MAB. Hatton struggled against Tsyzu.

I rate the Tsyzu win above JMM because the JMM win was controversial. I rate the first Morales win just under, Pac beat Morales more impressively but at the time, Kostya was higher regarded. Morales was barely top 10 p4p at the time whereas tsyzu was #3.

 

I actually think a case can be made to say Pacquiao's win over Oscar is on par with Hatton's victory over Tszyu. Kostya & Oscar were both past theri best, getting on a a fair bit, were not active by any means, struggled with the weight!

Never mind that Pacquiao defeated MAB in 2003, when Marco was a much better fighter than the guy who's still around today! Barrera is not even a LW!

 

I can't believe this is even debatable. Pacquio KO'd Morales twice a man that had never even been down except for a bull**** bad call in the first Barrera fight. He KO'd Barrera once and beat him handily in a rematch. I'll 4 of those were clear devasting victories over fighters at least as great as Tzyu

 

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he's being sarcastic. monstar is a pac fan