Is paul williams just big? Is he ducking Quintana? why.

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  1. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobody of the P.Williams nuthugger maybe( see what i did separating the nuthuggers from the real fans).

    Its the same excuse who williams accused of avoiding him gives.

    Now really isnt that just hypocritical of you?.
     
  2. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, What Paul Williams is doing is not ducking. He obliterated Q., so he's satisfyed with that. Williams complaint is about getting big fresh fights, not rematches with a guy he'd destroyed so it's not hypocritical. There is no interest in a rematch from the boxing world. Zero interest from the boxing world means no money. Has Q. been pushing hard for a rematch like Hopkins and Calz.? I have not looked hard into, but I have not read anything about Q. bitching about this.

    As of today it would be stupid for a rematch to occur for everyone concerned except maybe Q.
     
  3. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The irony in all this is if Paul Williams did seek out this fight for reasons of unfinished business, everyone would laugh at the guy and accuse him of taking the easy road. He'd be accused of ducking the Winky Wrights of the world and settling for a small safe paycheck.

    PAUL WILLIAMS IS NOT DUCKING Q.
     
  4. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, not even I would say Williams is ducking Quintana, and you can ask Walk With Me to testify that I'm actually one of the fews who would like to see Quintana get another shot at Williams. But Paul is moving on and so should Quintana and all of his fans (my self included).
     
  5. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Heres a link that quintana wanted to fight
    http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=15864


    Youre not getting what im saying Paul williams is definitely a bigger name than quintana.just like Cotto is a bigger name than Williams.
    If A bigger named fighter says that "no interest from the boxing world means no money" to williams its interpreted as ducking or avoiding
    When Paul Williams refused to fight a third fight with carlos its suddenly ok. Dont get me wrong i give him props for fighting Winky which is a tough fight for him. Im just saying " the avoided or most feared man in boxing moniker" is just a ploy to get the bigger more financially rewarding fight. just like williams just like Margarito.
     
  6. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The link is not working. Can you save us the headache and cut and paste the information?

    I get what you are saying but I disagree with it. Williams fought Q. twice, so that's two times he has allready not ducked Q. If Williams was a ducker, he would have never fought Q. in the 1st place.

    Williams is complaining about fighters that he has not been able to get a first fight with, not fighters that he has fought twice, the last time being KO'd by in the 1st round. The comparison is at most grasping for straws. I don't think even you honestly think that Williams is ducking Q. at this point.
     
  7. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what it basically says is Williams refused a third match

    Let me rephrase it Williams is avoiding a third match with Quintana because he feels it doesnt make sense financially.
    If A bigger named fighter gives the same reason to williams its interpreted as ducking but when Paul Williams refused to fight a third fight with carlos its suddenly ok.Because he koed him in the first round.(even if a third match is needed to determine who really is better)

    Dont get me wrong i give him props for fighting Winky which is a tough fight for him. Im just saying drop " the avoided or most feared man in boxing monicker" we all know its just a ploy to get the bigger more financially rewarding fight. just like williams just like Margarito.

    There is a higher expectation when you call yourself " the most feared or the most ducked fighter in the world today"

    Youre right Its williams decision if he fights Quintana again but he should drop "the most avoided or most feared man in boxing moniker".
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    There is a huge whole in your entire argument and that is that there is no interest from any major network for a third fight. Paul Williams does not negotiate his fights. Goosen would be completely ******ed to setup a third fight between these two on say ESPN or some other second rate program, with Williams getting paid peanuts to fight a pointless third fight against a guy he knocked out and who doesn't have a title or a high ranking the division in which he fights.
     
  9. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what if Cotto fights pac rather than williams because its more interesting for hbo you wouldnt call him a ducker, using your logic.
     
  10. LockDog387

    LockDog387 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    huggerfree did you see what happened in the last fight? Quintana was getting hit nonstop. The third fight will be the same, Williams landing and knocking him out. I don't think Quintana can take any of Williams punches, especially the straight left which knocked him out.
     
  11. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep. Did you see the first fight though.?
    All im saying is im gonna give paul and carlos the benefit of the doubt so lets have a third one.
     
  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Cotto has proven he ain't ducking any fighters. Cotto could have easily choose Cintron as his opponent in june but didn't and decide to fight Clottey who is the tougher opponent. If Cotto decide to fight Pacquiao in the fall, i wouldn't complain cause style wise it be an interesting fight and beside i honestly don't know if Williams can make 147 pounds.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    No I wouldn't call him a ducker. In fact, Cotto has already stated that he wants to fight Pac should he beat Clottey. He has never mentioned Williams. Furthermore, there would be more of a reason to call Cotto a ducker due to the fact that their would be interest from both HBO and Showtime for a Cotto/Williams fight. There is no interest from HBO or Showtime to make Williams/Quintana III.
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Cintron was rejected as an opponent for Cotto, that's why he's fighting Clottey.
     
  15. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Let's not. You and about 15 other prople in the world think Quintana can get Williams in a rubber match. I know you ain't a Williams hater, but you are very delusional trying to compare the Quintana-Williams situation with the Arum/Cotto/Margarito/Williams situation.

    You aren't stupid. I think you're just taking the **** at this point.