Video: Calzaghe/Hopkins..lol.Can you really be the loser after this?

Because it would be in Wales.

Because a crowd drunk ref would step in if Hop was as half as inactive as he was in the last 4 rounds of the first fight. Which he would be because of the style clash, and he is a year older.

 

well if bernard was gonna win the fight, he would have had to land more clean punches than that. i mean ****, this video showed only a few rounds and like 10 solid clean shots. the highlight reel's gonna need to be A LOT longer than that to prove that hopkins won the fight. atsch

not sure what you're trying to prove here...

 

the fight Stunk so bad. Joe chasing bhop around and gets nail flush once every 30 secs. joe missing looking stupid. Holding, clinching, in a ugly fight. Bhop eventually stop for whatever reason prolly old and watched joe's slaps. i don't want to see it again unless bhop just punch the slapper every round like he did kelly and be aggressive hopkins instead of the stick and move hopkins.

 

yeah well he still looks gay as hell in your avatar... :hi: just messin with you

 

i have no idea, but it's how calzaghe's been winning for years. i just dont understand how theyre scoring his punches. most are on the inside where he's flailing wildly. how are the judges seeing that? i can't even see punches landing and im watching it on tv. anyone have the compubox on this fight?

by the way, i think calzaghe's a great champion. not trying to take shots at his fighting style, i just seriously can't understand how they score his fights.

 

exactly. i think bhop learned a little too late. i think the second fight would be very different.

 

Christ, i wish this fight had never happened.

 

Im the creator of this vid. I made it just to shut up the hopkins huggers after i made a vid showing calzaghe landing on hopkins. For all those who argue that hopkins deserves a rematch, he had his chance and he blew it. I've seen a couple of people on here saying that hopkins would be more aggresive in the rematch, but the question is why didnt he fight 'aggresively' in their first fight. Ill tell you why because he was fighting joe calzaghe and not pavlik. Maybe there would be an argument for a rematch if the fight was as close and exciting as pac marquez but it wasnt.

 

I just rewatched some of the fight - it was close, and a question of quality (Hopkins) vs quantity (Calzaghe). However anyone saying Bernard deserves a Boxing Oscar for this fight should be shot.
He made the fight look ugly as hell - so if this got on the nerves of judges and moved them towards a Calzaghe win, I won't blame them.

I do not think the more agressive version of Hopkins (the one against Kelly) would work better against Calzaghe. This would probably work even more in favour of Calzaghe.

On starting threads like this one: You will only leave this thread angrier than before posting it. Most people on this forum try to act as man-like as possible - however it is all too evident that quiet a lot are just school boys acting tough.

 

Seems like you respond to EVERYONE...Except those people who say Hopkins should have just knocked out Calzaghe if they were just "***** slaps." Apparantly those ***** slaps were enough to make Hopkins respect Calzaghe because within 12 rounds other than the first round he never tryed to really KO cal.
Your not going to respond to anything like this though. Know why?... YOU CAN'T! Because you have no argument...There's no sense you can make that 2 grown men (especially boxing legends) would sit there, and allow one man to ***** slap him around for 36 minutes with supposedly NO POWER, and the other man (who is a legend again) just sits back, and lets him do it. If you don't respect somebodies power..You KTTFO!

So...Let's hear a response to that....I'm all ears.

 

Basically for me they way bernard fought against calzaghe is not worthy of a rematch. If he fought his heart out and showed us great heart or determination then fair enough he deserves another crack but that night it was no one elses fault apart from hopkins that he lost.

 

Thats the problem.

If Hop is more aggressive he would lose wider. He had the perfect gameplan for Calzaghe, and it very nearly worked(I had it a point for Calzaghe).

If Hop acts first and is aggressive he opens himself to both what is his biggest downfall and Calzaghe's strength. Quick hands.

Calzaghe looks for opponents when they are negative, and he he looks horrible. Ducking down, and coming in flailing his arms around, trying to get them to engage. He forces the action, and hopes he will come out on top. Against someone as crafty and skilled as Hop this looked bad.

If they come to him he looks good, his movement, judging of distance, speed and variety of angles and accuracy when counterpunching is very good. The second half of the Kessler fight is a good look at this, Calzaghe was patient, and an understandably nervous Kessler started looking for him. Rounds 6,7,8 are what Calzaghe is all about especially.

In the first fight Hop made Calzaghe react to Hops reaction(If you know what i mean) and it stood Calzaghe on his head for 4 rounds. When Calzaghe worked it out he adjusted brilliantly, his movement when coming in changed every time, going to the body as much as to the head, judging the distance perfectly and making Hop work every second of the fight.


Even if you scored the fight for Hopkins, it wasnt by a landslide. And considering Calzaghe was 5 points down after 4 on practically every scorecard ive read on here(Including my own), his performance in those last 8 rounds was exceptional considering his opponent. Ugly yes, but what do you expect when fighting someone as crafty as Hop.

Calzaghe's work in those last 8 rounds are vastly underrated. The same people who ridicule them are the same people who give Calzaghe at least 5-6 of them when giving Hop the nod. It's a joke.

 

Spot on mate. Some people just can't let things go. :-(

 

The only reason why he refuse to trade with joe is bc of his age and can't handle the workrate and he thinks he needs to conserve down the stretch but all that moving around posing around then he might as well just do more punch and hold crap. i don't care if he wins or lose but if he gets a rematch he should just fight. for someone with a good chin, he is scare to use it. I rather see chad dawson beat joe piller to post.

 

FFS :roll: