Why did Prince Naseem Hamed retire?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Its not an excuse at all. I wouldn't make excuses because he had a great career, and I respect the mans right to manage his life and his career how he wished. If he wanted to retire at 28, fine by me, it was his choice. It's not something that needs to be excused or apologized for.

    Its seems pretty obvious to me that religion was incresingly becoming a huge part of Hamed's life, perhaps the dominant force in it. It also seems pretty obvious to me that a loudmouth British Muslim being called to the ring by Islamic cleric, giving short sermons in Arabic down the microphone before the fight, praising Allah at every opportunity, wearing quotes from the Koran on his short, and generally ramming his devout beliefs down the audiences throat, wasn't exactly going to be the most marketable boxer on the planet, post 9-11.

    I can see HBO saying, "look, we want to give you a new contract, but you need to tone down the Muslim stuff". You really think Hamed would be willing to abandon that part of his identity, when it was becoming ever more previlent? I don't.

    Like I said in the article, there are many reasons why Hamed retired when he did, and his devotion to his religion was certainly one of them. But I would also add there were perhaps half a dozen equally significant reasons.
     
  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I would settle for; very good fighter, and a very good career.

    And certainly an ATG Featherweight.
     
  3. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok, i could live with that statement. He's got some serious competition for ATG Featherweight though!
     
  4. D_XZ

    D_XZ Member Full Member

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    He always had motivation problems. I remember reading an interview in a running magazine talking about how he incorporated roadwork into his training, the variations etc.. most of article was about how much Naz hated it. There was one quote in particular where he asked why a milllionaire would drag himself out of bed at 5:30 am to do something he hates.

    As Hoya said "Without questioning an honest and open Naseem Hamed it is hard to say" but I think that he got richer, and especially became a father he lost his desire to fight - hence not taking up the rematch clause.
    He still trained and was at a very high level (if a little too reliant on big KO's) when he fought Barrera. He could have been better, but Barrera really seemed to have the answer to Hameds style and I think all he could have done was narrow the points margin a little more.

    Here's a clip of Hamed talking about the formula for becoming great: Beating multiple champs at multiple weights and retiring undefeated. Notice how he dwells on not being beaten? Maybe this promise to himself was all that kept him going as long as he did and when his defeat ruined that he ran out of reasons to make himself continue doing something he didn't have the fire for anymore.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5aBQrJJ5kU&feature=related
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Naz was a very exciting fighter in his prime, he shouldn't have retired. Naz Vs. Kevin Kelly was awesome, very exciting.
     
  6. Brummy1976

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    Mate, he could be in the best shape of his life, but if he was mentally in decline it means nothing.Your actually agreeing with my original post reply to you now......
     
  7. johnp

    johnp Reject Full Member

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    Seems like he lost the hunger and didn't train as hard once he'd made enough money.
     
  8. Primadonna Kool

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    Prince Naseem Hamed was bigger than Hatton, Lewis and Calzaghe put together.

    For share magnitude, and for what he did for the sport.
     
  9. riot187

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    Once Naz lost his 0 he was always gonna go. So much of his game depended on that air of invincibility, that confidence. Once that got broken so did he.
     
  10. martin0792

    martin0792 The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Correct answer actually
     
  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm biased here since I'm a huge Lewis fan and not a fan of Hamed so I'm going to have to say no. He brought flash, cockiness and an unorthodox style, that's it. Had he continued on his journey for a few more years, beaten the real great fighters out there, which I believe he could have, I'd agree with you.
     
  12. Kid Lucky

    Kid Lucky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Interesting article HOYA-UK well done mate.

    Couldn't be arsed with training and couldn't handle a loss mentally. Fantastic career though.

    The scores in the Barrera fight included a point took off MAB for the turnbuckle smash didn't they? so not as close as suggested.
     
  13. tonysaprano

    tonysaprano Member Full Member

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    I think he retired cause :

    1. he built up the fight so much, the, Alah is great and will want me to win patter, and then got pumped:lol:
    2. As well as making a complete of himself along the way, ****in attitude was rotten for that fight. I remember watching the build up to the fight, when he brought in a couple of mexican guys to spar him, and they both knocked his **** in:lol:
    3. Barrera man raped him, (to think of a better way to put it:nut)
    4. Barrera made a complete tit of him by giving him a UFC mashing with the corner post, ****in loved that:lol::lol:
    5. Cause Naz is nothing but a cocky little upstart, who wasnt as good as he thought he was, simple eh:hi::hi:
     
  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I'm a big fan of Lewis as well. He was obviously the greater boxer, and achived more in his career than Naz. But, Naz was a lot more popular, and did attract more new fans, and interest in the sport, than Lewis ever did. No doubt about that.
     
  15. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd easily agree that in the UK Naz did more, the UK fans never did take to Lewis too well, they majority wanted Bruno to beat him as I recall:huh

    But worldwide I'd say Lewis, though I wouldn't dispute it too hard, not much in it. It was an era of the heavyweights with Tyson/Holyfield and Bowe generating interest so that division generally drew more attention than any other and assisted Lewis.

    They both achieved the same thing all great British boxers achieve. Hatered and a loathing from the States with yanks praying for them to get ktfo. I've never understood that..