What/Who detemines if a fighter is shot, past prime,faded

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  1. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is it the number of wars they fought? their age, Last performance, they can be shot while fighting? I know its a combination of all of these but how do you seperate the facts from fiction.
     
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    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Joe Calzaghe fights them
     
  3. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    seriously?:good
     
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    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    How much money he can make for TV and promoters.
     
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    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    the way they fight compared to their prime without a doubt
     
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    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    if they got destroyed by pac then you can tell a fighter is shot, faded, old:yep
     
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    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    seriously it's a combination of the choices you mentioned
     
  8. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Various facts.

    Too many wars.
    Age.
    Lack of dedication, too much money, family, etc
    A break in training through no fault of their own, accident, serious injury etc
    Change in trainers/management.

    I'm sure there are more.

    Thing is for me shot/past prime are two different animals. A past prime fighter can still hang in there with the top guys, a shot fighter will get blitzed almost everytime.
     
  9. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have a question. what if boxerA(legend not shot) was beaten to the post/ dominated by boxerB(because hes that good). ?
    I hope you get my point if a young fighter dominates a known legend making him look sloppy he's automatically shot?
     
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    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have a question. what if boxerA(legend not shot) was beaten to the post/ dominated by boxerB(because hes that good). ?
    I hope you get my point if a young fighter dominates a known legend making him look sloppy he's automatically shot?
     
  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    His records and performance!

    If a fighter has fought and beat some real good opponets, rose in rank then suddenly encounter problems in beating less skillful fighters he is shot.

    If he cannot perform at least 70% of what he used to be as a fighter he is past his prime. :deal
     
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    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on the legends career progression a few fights before and a few fights after I'd say. Also was his last fight a war, did he get his preparations right, is the young fighter a name or a nobody?
     
  13. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who determines who is more skillfull or not?the fans? the media?
    styles makes fight right?
    Again who determines this? Isnt it possible A fighter is so good he makes a prime fighter perform less than 70%?
     
  14. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ofcourse we'll be subjected to all kinds of excuse after a loss.
     
  15. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends. If a fighter doesn't have anything to back it up then of course it's excuses. But if the guy has evidence then it takes a pretty ignorant person to dismiss the facts wuldn't you say?

    I mean if a guy gets a phonecall 10 minutes before going into the ring that his mother had died I'll bet when it comes out people worldwide would still be spouting complete bull****:

    'There's no way they'd have given him that information 10 minutes before getting in the ring, ****ing excuses'

    See what I mean...