Video: Calzaghe/Hopkins..lol.Can you really be the loser after this?

Calzaghe was certainly not interested in a rematch.I also think Rob Reid beat Calzaghe years ago,im in a minority but belive the ref cost Rob that night.I think you are right about Kessler`s timing.He landed some solid shots and had the welsh bore hurt but missed with the follow up.
The worst fight i can possibly imagine is Calzaghe v Ottke.It would be the most tedious 12 round fight ever and guaranteed to end in a draw,judges find it impossible to score against either of them.

 

I think I scored it something like 113-114 Calzaghe. There is a high workrate and then there is the no workrate at all for Hopkins in some of the rounds.

When he did thow enough he usually landed the more telling blow but he was just too anemic

 

Stopped reading there.


Obviously havent watched the Kessler fight have you. Or you cant judge fights worth a ****.

What Calzaghe did after 4 (Knowing he had at least taken 1, he could be at most only 2 points down) was be more patient and make the nervous Kessler(Understandable) force the pace.

Calzaghe eased of in the 5th and drew MK out. He then proceeded to administer a top quality spell (6,7,8 if you dont appreciate that then there is no help for you at all, or you have no interest in seeing it. Calzaghe was brilliant).

Credit for Kessler for coming back and going with Calzaghe, but in the space of 4 rounds he had been totally turned around and was forced to be the aggressor, and Calzaghe capatilised. Credit for Kessler for taking rounds even after that, away from home and late, while out of his plan, and against a Calzaghe firm in his. Thats why i like Kessler.


The second half of the Kessler-Calzaghe fight is excellent. How people dont give that it's due is ****ed up. I can understand giving some stick for fights MK made after but that fight was excellent from 4 onwards. And the first 4 werent bad either.


The thousand slaps per round **** in this fight is nonsense. Complete nonsense.

The Best of it is, that term was brought by Lacy calling Calzaghe a Slapper, right before the fight he got hit with a 1000 punches, ****ing him up, and killing his career. And you lot still swear by it.

You couldnt write it.

 

I am a boxing fan and i see nothing to appreciate in the rounds you mention.I just see Calzaghe doing the same thing he always does.I think he and Ottke are related in some way.As for the Lacy fight a guy with about 20 pro fights turns up with a blaze of publicity and it is clear after 2 or 3 rounds that he is in fact a over hyped tool with about as much skill as a Manfreado or a Sheika.Calzaghe cant knock him out or stop him despite Lacy standing flat footed in front of him begging to be starched.Insted of a knock out which a fighter like say Kessler or Hopkins would have surley produced the judges are predictably called into action.Pretty pathetic really and yet you lot act as if it was the ultimate victory never to be surpassed.

 

Well, as one boxing fan to another, you are missing out. It's sad.

To ignore what Calzaghe did in those rounds is one thing, but to compare him to Ottke(Who was far from terrible) is another. Poor comparison. Not good.


Because of those statements there is really no point in us debating but i cant help but pull you up on on the deeply flawed logic you use later as regard to stoppages and fighters begging to be stopped.

Hop-Pav
Jones-Any ****er he fought that survived circa 05-02
Andrade.
Taylor-LACY

To name a tiny portion.

But Hop or Kessler would have surely KO'd Lacy. That Lacy? (06).

Taylor didnt, to the ruined, post injury Lacy. But Kessler would have done in 06, or the middleweight that Taylor beat. OK.

Manfredo had more skill than the ex IBF Champ, Ex Olympian. OK.

Sheika??????.


Contender fan then?


Not good.

 

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Clan spelt with a 'C' not a 'K'

I'm from a big Celtic family and we had clans long before the USA existed.

Back to Hopkins (who showed himself up as a racist), I stand by my comments, he's one of the most over rated fighters I can think of.

He's proclaimed himself a legend an ATG and weak minded fans have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Like they say, tell a lie, tell a big lie, tell it loud and tell it often and people will actualy start to beleive it;s true.

The story of the Emporers new clothes come to mind!

 

round 1 hopkins
round 2 hopkins
round 3 hopkins
round 4 hopkins
round 5 calzaghe
round 6 even
round 7 hopkins
round 8 calzaghe
round 9 calzaghe
round 10 hopkins
round 11 calzaghe
round 12 calzaghe

115-113 hopkins

 

I actually gave round 3 to Calzaghe.......Harold Lederman (who is a dick but does score fights for a living,) gave Cazaghe rounds 2 & 4.

At the end of round 4 the HBO compubox numbers were:

Landed Thrown Percent
Hopkins 29 117 25%
Calzaghe 59 206 29%

And practically everyone (including me,) had Hopkins in the lead on points at this time.
Lederman also gave Hopkins round 7 despite Calzaghe landing 24 shots to Hopkins 12 and having a higher percentage (38% - 29%)

That Hopkins was landing the cleaner blows has been taken into account by the people who scored it for Calzaghe, they were giving rounds to Hopkins on that basis even though Calzaghe was landing twice as many punches as him.

I noticed watching the first round again that when Cortez re-started the action after the knockdown, it took Hopkins almost 40 seconds to throw a single punch.

In total, I gave Hopkins rounds 1(10-8,) 2, 4 & 10 and Calzaghe the other 8 rounds.

Total 115-112 to Calzaghe.

Previous times I've watched it, I may have scored a few rounds different but always came to about the same score.

Despite his 'schooling' at stages in the fight and the cleaner shots rom Hopkins that we constantly hear about, JC never appeared hurt at any stage, not even really after the KD.

I'd forgot what a **** fight it was until I saw it again.

 

So on your scoring Hopkins only won because of the knockdown

 

good post

 

so it wasnt a good performance because there wasn't a knockout??

 

it was in america the land of robberies why shoudn't he be nervous by the corrupt judging, and the split decision at hopkins hometown just proves how wide calzaghe really beat him.

the reality is calzaghe was the one who was robbed out of a clear ud win.