David Tua vs Rocky Marciano

I think this is a Bad matchup for Rocky, a Better Fighter, but giving away 40plus pounds, and Coming streight into Tua is a recepie for Disaster, yet Rocky can do little else, he can not start dancing and flicking a Jab, No Rocky would do what Rocky Does, and Tua would not have to expand any energy looking for Rocky, he just Opens up when Rocky gets to him, Tua is a murderous puncher if you trade wiuth him up close....But as stated, give him a 40lbplus weight advantage as well
and the cards are heavily stacked against Rocky, who man of appeared Superhuman, but was indeed Mortal, Rocky often had to employ his Fitness Strenght and determination over several rounds to pummel his opponent, asa in the case of Fat Don Cockell, I think agaoinst Tua he does not get the Chance, Tua Bigger not Better, wins and i woiuld expect it to be quick, perhaps to many Rocky Fans, shockingly so,

 

Marciano's Suzie Q left tons of people on the canvas unconcious. Look at what he did to Walcott and Layne. Marciano damn near killed Carmine Vingo with one punch. Vingo was in a coma for 2 days teetering between life and death. In the end he lived, but he never fought again. People who have sparred both Louis and Marciano said that Marciano could hurt you more with 1 punch than Louis could with 4.

 

Layne had no chin. Vingo was a tomato can.

 

And no analysis whatsoever. Best dose not mean closest to your opinion.

 

Utter nonsense. Laynes chin was granite.

 

Even at 220 Tua was carrying excess bagage. In peak condition he would have been under 210.

 

This is kind of a funny matchup given that the only way for either of these fighters to win is by knockout, yet neither man was ever Ko'd in his career. In addition, both men fought similar styles, yet never faced anyone who fought like themselves. I don't see these guys slugging for 12 or 15 straight rounds without one of them being stopped in one way or another. There is simply too much power being traded back and forth for a decision to be possible. In the unlikely event that such a match did go the distance, it would probably result in both men having to donate their remains to science. If I were forced to pick, I'd probably have to go with Tua. He had about 40 Lbs on Marciano and although both guys had great chins, Tua's was tested more thoroughly against guys Like Lennox Lewis and a few others. Marciano could certainly take a walloping, but he was cut, rocked and floored multiple times to lesser punchers leaving me with the indication that Tua's power and chin would ultimately be a deciding factor. Sure, we can sit here and talk about who had more heart, more handspeed, whatever. But in the end, however, it comes down to two big vehicles coliding at full speed, and only one surivivor making it out alive.

Tua by knockout ( not sure what round. )

 

Swarmer on swarmer match ups tend to be a bit random as to the outcome. It is a scenario where a lesser fighter will often pull an upset. For this reason a Tua win cannot be considered unlikley.

If I had to put money down however I would go with the more polished and consistent Marciano.

 

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I also picked Tua to take this one, but think about what you're saying, when you say the words " there is no way to KO Tua. " Marciano was never Ko'd either, and in fact went 15 rounds, which is something that Tua never did nor ever will. You also added the words " certainly not by Marciano ", implying that Rocky would have even less of a chance than the average Joe Blow.

Once again, I agree that Tua takes this one, but you may want to watch how you word some of this stuff, and look for more solid reasons in your debate.

 

How many times was this granite-chinned nonsence knocked down or stopped in his career?

 

Ibeabuchi had a completely different style from Marciano, and was much bigger and stronger phisically. There is no comparison between the two.

 

Only because Marciano fought in a VERY POOR heavyweight division.

 

He was never knocked out before facing Marciano and his only knockdown that I know of came against Bob Satterfield (no shame there).

After his back to back losses to Marciano and Charles he was damaged goods. His record after this point shows that he was not the same fighter.