? for JMM fans screaming for Pac rematch

You are wrong.

The facts are that the JMM camp and the Pac camp were in middle of negotiations. JMM was asking for just a little more than what Arum wanted to give him (a strategy that is always used in negotiations).

Take into account that at that time JMM was with Top Rank.

In the meantime Erik Morales had recently lost to Barrera, and Morales was not taking it very well.

Erik Morales who was also a Top Rank fighter and a MUCH BIGGER DRAW than JMM, immediately after losing to MAB pressed Arum for a shot at PAC in order to redeem himself. After all, he gained his countries respect and national attention after disposing of the man who beat Barrera twice. EM knew beating Pac was the best way to get back at MAB, and having the upperhand once again.

Arum saw bigger $$$, and took JMM out of the negotiations and replaced him with Morales.

JMM was pissed, and Nacho and him decided to capture another of the belts by beating Chris John which would then result in Pac having to fight JMM. Unfortunately JMM was robbed.

That is the real story.

 

another marquez fairy tale story pac was ready to fight marquez for the 2nd fight.

 

Pacman offered the rematch right off the back. at least Morlaes took the rematch with no excuses, but Marquez wanted to act like a hard ass and not take the fight. so he waits all those years to lose a close fight to Pacquaio in a rematch, but still tends to diss Pacquaio like hes running away. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! I like Marquez and hes p4p #2 but he just needs to shut the hell up about Pacquaio. DONT GET KNOCKDOWN 4 TIMES IN 2 FIGHTS AND YOU MIGHT HAVE A WIN!!!

 

the rematch happened, so what's the point of this thread again....i mean, it would've made sense 2 years ago, but now......?

 

those who say pac is scared are stupid....

 

You're new here.....but sorry, this topic has been discussed here to nauseum.....

......sorry, but the truth of the matter was that Pac was a willling participant in letting Murad Muhamad (his then promoter) royallydry hump him........

......JMM refused such treatment from his then promoter Bob Arum.

Its not worth the time and hassle to get into details about a subject already stale in this forum, but UliUli's post is pretty accurate, and it only begins to scratch the surface of the whole story.

Enough of it! We're in the present and the deal now is that what Pac and his team are doing in avoiding a third fight with JMM is a business move....they know they were lucky to get the decision in their rematch.....and it certainly would'nt be convenient for them to risk an official loss to JMM with fights like Hatton, and Mayweather a possibility.

The only time where it would make business sense for Pac to take a JMM fight would be if he runs out of opponents, and or he loses before JMM does.

Lets all move on......and lets see both Pac and JMM fight great fighters beside eachother.

 

UliUliUli You are wrong.
I was there when JMM decided to fight John instead of the rematch with pac

 

IF you were there, then you're a complete baffoon......


Negotiations for a JMM-Pac rematch broke down in late 2004.......Arum negotiated to have his cash cow Erik Morales at the time fight Pacquiao instead......

Morales-Pac was fought in March 2005....during that time since a Morales-Pac fight was made instead, JMM took a fight with Victor Polo in May of 2005 (this was already after Pac had lost to Morales)......

The John fight for JMM did not come until well over a year after negotiations with Pac had broken down, and it had nothing to do with JMM selecting John instead of Pac.....
....by the time JMM took the John fight, Pac was out of the picture...... Pac had actually already fought Morales twice by the time JMM was robbed against John.


The point is that JMM choosing to fight John, has nothing to do with not fighting Pac......as the John fight came much later after negotiations for a JMM-Pac fight broke down.

Get the clown outfit ready to wear, it should fit you perfect!:deal

 

can we get this over with already?

 

As good as a boxer he is... marquez has a ***** mouth.

 

The facts are out there and they're easily found. The reason why we're talking about rematches with Pac for JMM is Pacquiao his self, HELL the reason we're talking about JMM in general is Pacquiao too.

Before the first fight everyone, including myself, admitted that JMM was a true A class fighter that's being turned down by many. Guess who was the first to prove them wrong and be the one to approach JMM officially?, it was Pacquiao.

Same story before the rematch, Pac was the one starting official negotiations and JMM turned it down because he demanded more money. Even the Mexican fans bashed on JMM and praised Morales for taking it instead while admitting a fight with Morales is far better and will be way more entertaining for the public in terms of styles.

Then it was Pacquiao once again calling out for a rematch and JMM finally took it but fell short. Now it's the same scenario but Pacquiao is telling JMM to move up as he did if he REALLY wants it. After all he has the right to do this, he was the one who gave JMM the first two fights anyway and being the winner he has the right to demand.

About the Chris John fight, we can't really call it a robbery. A close fight is never a robbery, it's a type of fight that can go either way based on how the person sees it and what the person prefers in terms of styles(not race like Freddy KFC Wak). A robbery is something like Chavez Sr./Whitaker, was it that one-sided in favor of JMM?, I don't think so.

 

jmm traveled to indonesia to fight for 30k