Tszyu vs Mosley at 140 in 2002, Who would have won?

Ignorance? Sorry, son, but no. I've been watching his entire career (starting from the Olympics in the late '80s) and recognize that he is a tremendous fighter. But, the one guy he wouldn't beat is SSM. Additionally losing to VP isn't being beat by a journeyman (as someone said). Vince was a heck of a good fighter who campaigned variously at 147 as well.

Why is it such a bad thing to hear that SSM could defeat KT? It isn't like you are hearing someone state that a bum could beat him. There aren't all that many of which that can be said. KT would have KO'd Hatton if he hadn't been past-peak and Ricky didn't enjoy some certain advantageous conditions. Prior to KT, I would probably say Aaron Pryor could do the job as well (he was phenomenal).

 

No your right Kosya had a solid beard. :roll: Why do you rookies even sign in?

 

Maybe it had to do with him beating Oscar when they were children. That doesn't really mean much because they were very young, but Mosley was the one they thought would rep the U.S. If you look over his amateur record you'll see that he did quite well. Forrest just has his number.

 

I never thought much of Phillips. Tszyu should have beaten him with ease. If I'm correct, Phillips moved down for this fight.

 

You're getting a bit desperate now aren't you?

I actually love Mosley as a fighter (and as a representative of the sport) so I don't want to be critical of him, but there's little doubt that steriods have been a factor in his career.

My earlier prediction of Tszyu by UD or late stoppage btw was predicated on Tszyu facing a roided-up Mosley. If Mosley was off the juice, I think King Kostya would take him out early.

 

What did roids do for him when he used them? He got spanked by DLH! I honestly don't pay much attention to that fight. People forget that Arum's offices were raided by the FBI after that fight. They alledgedly had proof that it was fixed. Plus, based on what evidence can Shane get ko'd by Tszyu??

 

And what exactly is that supposed to be an indication of? Tyson never made the Olympics because of Terrell Biggs. We all know what Tyson went on to become and what he did to Biggs. The maths im seeing in this thread is truly pathetic. I mean Kostya handling Forrest like a stud in the am's, Forrest beats Shane, so that means Kostya beats Shane?!?! Why do you guys even bother to watch this sport?!?

I mean with such maths like that Ali wouldnt be able to beat Foreman right? ****ing banjo's :roll:

 

You're certainly entitled to your opinion but I don't really have anything to add to my first response to you.

That was:

Americans have a great penchant for overrating their own. Mosley was a great fighter but Tszyu was certainly in his class & at his best, more than capable of handling him.

 

Thats pure hogwash. Jones was found to be on steroids after the Richard Hall fight. Holyfield was accused of the same because he worked out with Haney. Vargas and Toney were also found to be on anabolics. Those are men that were tested and found to have substances in there system. Shane was accused of taking EPO and being linked to the Balco scandal. Do you even know the diffrence between EPO and the peformance enhancers et al that Jones and co took? If you did you wouldnt make such a stupid post. Shane was a stud at 135. Let me guess he was on hormones back then?

 

That is true. But, Vince was way past his prime when he KO'd Tsyzu. He was a really good fighter (and it is evidenced by the length of his career). He was almost 36 when he got stopped by Millet (he was down twice earlier in the fight but wasn't in such trouble when the ref stoppage occurred). He was something like 35-3 when he fought Tsyzu. He got a TKO in '93 due to a cut. He got stopped in three by a pretty fair fighter named Ike Quartey in '96. He lost a split decision to Romallis Ellis in '97 a few months before fighting Tsyzu. That's it. Only three losses into his mid-30s. I think that is pretty decent. In his old age, he has been a legit step up fight for a host of names.

 

Dude, I was around back in those days & when the Yankee Doodle Dandies came to town for the world amateur championships in 1991 everyone was hyping Oscar.

He went out in the prelim rounds much to everyone's surprise.

Forrest fought great until he faced Tszyu in the final and got his arse handed to him.

Oscar & Forrest were on the US team back then because they were the best amateurs in the country. Mosley was not.

Don't feed me any more of your bull on this subject.

 

More garbage. Shane back in 2000 was ranked by most independant consensus as an ATG Lightweight. This is a slugger who in his entire career has only come close to being KO'ed once after suffering concussion from a headbutt in he's first fight with Forrest. He jumped 2 weight divisions to take on DLH a much bigger fighter handed him he's ass on a plate and subsequently was recognised as P4P THE BEST fighter on this planet. Kostya has never equalled anything close to the career of Shane. Put this crap to sleep.

 

Vince was a drug addict who struggled to stay clean. And although he was a good fighter he only fought to pay bills. Remember this was a man that ended up in the K1 for a spell trying to make the ends meet. He wasnt doing it for fun..

 

His name was Tyrell Biggs, ignoramus.

Bring something to the table if you want to join the argument.

Attributing misguided arguments to those who think Tszyu could handle Sugar & then rebutting them is lame.

 

That's funny coming from a guy that doesn't know what 100 - 62 is. :rofl Obviously you don't know **** about Mosley's amateur background. All you're going to do is hype up your Aussie heroes and make crazy statements such as " Tszyu would ko Mosley". Based on what evidence? We've all seen Tszyu ko'd but not Mosley.