When is the Jeffro going to get some love......

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    For my predictions.... Ok no one is going to predict a technical decision, **** knows why they decided to go with that for an international title fight, not heard of it before in the UK. But regardless the key factors in the fight such as tactics etc as well as the way the fight turned out I predicted in my preview..... Just like I did in the De LA Hoya- Pac fight.... I Do get them wrong now and again, like Pryce-Hall this weekend.... But this deserves some ESB love, no?:rofl

    Preview

    -Evaluating this fight is incredibly difficult for a number of reasons. Barrera's age, mental approach, recent cut damage, ever protective corner team and inactivity could all become major factors as the bout unfolds as could Khan's punch resistance.

    -At just 5' 6” to Khans 5'10”, Barrera is going to have a very tough time closing range against a fighter as fast and mobile as Khan. If Junior Jones' frame could give a tenacious, prime Barrera trouble then how is he going to cope with a fighter who is faster, taller and arguably more accurate then Jones ever was.

    -If he (Barrera) has done his homework he will almost certainly try to intelligently pressure Khan into making mistakes and try to make him pay with his rapid counters. He may also try to cut off the ring and pin him against the ropes or in the corner where he can let his fast hands go. If Barrera succeeds in bulling Khan to the ropes or pins him in a corner at any stage during the fight, then it could be over instantaneously.

    -I think he certainly will give it a go early on but I feel that at 35 he is almost all fought out and will quickly become discouraged -though I would not be surprised to see either on the floor early. I think that Khan's intelligent use of angles will have been maximized by Freddie Roach in training and he will catch Barrera by surprise as Barrera stalks forward, very often.

    -Defensively Barrera is very adept at blocking single shots and moving just out of punching range, but I think he will struggle when Khan puts his rapid combinations together. Barrera is also very slow of foot. He likes to have a solid base to throw his punches from and against someone who is going to continuously be on the move he may find himself consistently being just out of range. I think the first couple of rounds will be frighteningly exciting, but as the pace slows Khan will become more and more dominant and Barrera increasingly disheartened.

    -I think a stoppage either way is possible but I'm more tempted to suggest that either the cut, which is still visible on Barrera's forehead, will cause a stoppage, or Barrera's corner will once again come to their mans aid between rounds 5 and 10 depending on when Barrera's feels he's had enough. It will be a sad way for a brilliant fighter like Barrera to go out but I'm sure most of us will remember him for his many great accomplishments during his prime.


    On a completely different topic, Barreras team did not treat the cut correctly. Firstly they wiped the cut with a towel then they wiped his head with cotton wool, then they wiped the cut using dry looking swabs...Finally they applied vaseline while the swabs were in place meaning when they pulled the swab away it left the wound open..... It was ****ing atrocious work.

    The correct method is to pad-dry the area as quickly as possible and immediately apply the addrenaline soaked swabs to the cut area... The Swabs should be soaked in adrenaline before the round finishes and then held in place as long as possible and then the towel can be used to wipe the rest of the face and head... But obviously not the cut itself. The swabs should remain in place until the finl moments before the next round where they are removed (bleeding hopefully under controldue to the adrenaline) and vasoline should then be applied on and around the cut to minimise friction if a punch lands on or around it.
     
  2. stake501

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    great work jeffro
     
  3. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Cheers mate.. just messing but it was a pretty accurate assesment. My early spider senses are thinking Hatton beats Pac too BTW....
     
  4. Akxtinguish

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    Because a lot of couch potatoes call fights equally as well on ESB, that's why.

    On the contrary, the corner team were lax rather than over-protective.

    True.

    Didn't happen.

    Off-target. Barrera was on the backfoot all along.

    True. Khan's speed was giving MAB trouble.

    Yes, very accurate.

    Well there was a cut but it wasn't the same cut you were referring to.

    Amen.
     
  5. Akxtinguish

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    Moving on...

    No chance, son. Pac is going to put on a boxing gala and hit Hatton all over the place. He'll stay at a distance and pepper him with shots whenever Hatton tries to come in (so not much chance of infighting), he's going to take Hatton to all four corners of the ring and back (Pacman's conditioning is going to pay off here) and our man's face is going to be shining bright red by the 4th/5th after which it's only a matter of time before he hits the deck, or just about makes it to the 12th to lose a UD.
     
  6. brown bomber

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    -Re the corner team... they were Lax... hoever it wasn't his normal corner team....

    -Barrera was going forward throughout.... watch a youtube clip. Khan was the one circling and staying away from the corners. The only time Barrera went backwards was when the cut started bothering him and he was getting hit with combos. Once Khan stopped punching he was back trying to close distance.

    -A cuts a cut... Barrera never cut like that in his prime. He clashed heads hundereds of times in the Morales fight with no cut damage.
     
  7. Akxtinguish

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    +1

    Will have another look

    + 1/2
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Barrera has post-prime skin?
     
  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I've got a slightly different view of this one. But if the Hatton who fought Urango or Collazo or even Tszyu turns up your right.
     
  10. brown bomber

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    :lol: Sounds ridiculous but if you've eat right for 15 years, taken all the right vits and drank properly etc.... then have 12 months out on the lash it can't have a positive effect on your body. He's been badly cut twice in consecutive fights....Plus there's less moisture in your skin as you get older.... You should know you awld ****...:lol:
     
  11. Akxtinguish

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    Well on one hand he's got a top trainer but I think he's been fighting too long to be able to make significant changes, but if he does it will be interesting to see how he approaches the fight.

    Also, he's already hit his peak and I reckon slowly on his way back down, so I'm not expecting him to put on any career-high performances.

    How do you see it going?
     
  12. brown bomber

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    Very true what your saying mate.... Without going into too much detail mate Ithink there are two BIG points been over looked in this fight.

    Hattons mobility is under-rated... Hatton presents a much more mobile target then a flat footed Barrera, a weight drained Oscar or a shot to pieces Morales. These were all great, great fighters but a heavy handed, punch machine is always going to be the perfect foil for an old disinterested fighter... which was largely my basis for the Khan -Barrera fight.

    The other one and its quite a biggy. Hattons hand positioning is very frontal. His right hnd often findng its way in front of his chin. Floyd will certainly be aware that Pacs most dangerous punch is his straight left. Hatton by default has his hands well positioned to negate Pacs biggest weapon. The punch that won him all three fights that I mentioned above.

    Its not going to be easy, or one sided. But I don't buy into the fact that this will be a brawl. Both can box fairly well and I think both would like to try and make the bout as easy as possible at this advanced stage of their careers. If Hatton can use his mobility well and consitantly negate that straight left he takes a UD or a stoppage with a body shot. More likely the UD.
     
  13. alba

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    after reading that i realised that your my hero ... Im going to give you a special mention on my radio show tommorw ...:happy
     
  14. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Really.... like it... link me?
     
  15. Akxtinguish

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    Good point there, Hatton's hardly a static fighter. He moves a lot, and usually moves quite aggressively. His physical condition is going to play a big role here.

    Didn't really think of this to be honest, but I guess this seperates the boxing eye from the lazy eye! If Pac doesn't find his way through then it's going to get pretty tricky.

    When you've got two aggressors you know you're in for FOTY material.

    I still give Pacman the handspeed advantage but if Hatton's going to take away his left like you say he might, then he's going to have to dig deep for a win.

    Can't wait for this fight!