MAB-Khan should have been No-Decision.

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  1. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Do you think that would've made a difference? I think Warren was in ''command'' anyway.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is exactly what happened.....MAB even alluded to it after the fight....he said, "the cut was just as bad in the first round as it was in the 5th when they stopped it....I dont know why they did'nt stop it earlier."

    ......thats what MAB said, but he only has himself to blame for not making it known to the referee that he was being badly hindered by the blood and he could'nt see the punches coming......
     
  3. mundinechamp

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    Barrera has fought over 70 professional fights, I think he and his cornermen would've had a clear idea of the situation and the rules.

    If they didn't feel the need to campaign for a stoppage, then so be it.

    This shouldn't dilute the fact that Khan defeated Barrera convincingly.
     
  4. Cobbler

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    That's complete bollocks. Either a fighter is fit to continue or isn't fit to continue. The cause of his injury is, and should be, totally irrelevant to the judgement as to whether he is fit to continue.
     
  5. Chert

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    it could've been that they were ignorant at that time of the rules regarding a NC. maybe they overlooked it with their full attention focused on barrera's nasty cut. they probably just realized that a NC was possible after the fight was finally stopped in the fifth. in the heat and panic of battle ppl tend to forget things especially in the chaos of a fighter's corner until it is too late.

    but the ref and the doctor could've stopped this fight within 4 rounds w/o any prodding from a fighter's corner. the question is that if they really wanted to do it and declare this fight a NC.
     
  6. sam1222

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    i was dissapointed the fight was stopped on a cut, and i agree it could have been ruled a no NC, but i'm not surprised they gave it to kahn by decision, kahn by decision looks better than a NC (for kahn and warren) but ive got to give credit to kahn too as it was the best performance ive seen him give yet. he didnt seem to hurt barrera at any time but he was definately in control of the fight all the way through.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know what you mean about the politics of boxing, but with the world watching, they would have had no choice but to stop it and rule it a no-contest had MAB's team not even worked on the cut by applying the gob of vaseline just to stop the flow while MAB got up from his stool.....

    If you remember Rahman-Toney, Rahman's cut was bad enough for the ref to stop......but in this case, the ref was in Joe Goosen's (Toney's promoter) back pocket....the ref stalled for quite a bit, refusing to stop the fight, and trying to talk Rahman into continueing.....

    .....if I remeber correctly, the ref awarded the fight to Toney for Rahman's refusal to continue.....
    .....but it was later rightfully reversed to a no-contest upon an appeal by Rahman....

    There was blood flowing into Rahman's eye, and he said he simply was not going to continue because he could'nt see......
    If a fighter says that he cant see, you stop the fight and go to the cards if 4 rounds were completed....
    .....in Rahmans case it was'nt and so it was ruled a no contest.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not blaming Khan, he did a fine job.....but how in hell can you not dillute the victory when his opponent went the whole fight visually impaired?
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well then smarty pants, why was this fight stopped in the 5th?
    The cut was no better or worse than it had been in the previous rounds!


    Wonder why they chose the 5th to stop it?????

    Oh my, if it goes past 4 rounds, we get to go to the scorecards and have our hometown fighter declared the winner.......WHOOOOOOOPEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
     
  10. Cobbler

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    Plenty of other fights where a fighter has received a bad cut, been allowed to continue, then stopped when the situation did not improve. Klitschko v Lewis being a prime example, as has already been pointed out to you.
     
  11. Cobbler

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    Also, the fact that the referee first took Barrera to the ringside doctor in the fourth round undermines your argument that it was all a conspiracy considerably...
     
  12. lv lurker

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    the truth. the commission needs to take a good look at the doctors conduct during this fight and hopefully rule it a nc. not necessarily for marcos sake as he was getting spanked proper, but because it is what is right. let marco decide if he really has a punchers chance in a rematch.
     
  13. divac

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    I'm not saying that it was a conspiracy that someone else stating that........

    .....I'm blaming MAB and his team for not selling the fact to the ref that his performance was being hindered by the fact that he could'nt see.


    ....as for Vitali-Lewis, two different scenario's ......that cut was caused by a punch......

    ....in fact in that Vitali fight, the ref was about to stop it earlier, but Vitali pleaded with him to give him more time......
    ......when the cut did'nt get any better, the ref stopped it inspite of Vitali's pleas not too.....

    Vitali actually bought himself a round or two by campaigning for the fight not to be stopped.....

    .....the same type of campaigning that MAB needed to show to have the fight stopped......

    Unfortunately in boxing, politics plays a major role with decision makers in it.....if the fighter does'nt stand up for himself, these politics will steamroll right over him.
     
  14. lv lurker

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    at one point even the announcers were incredulous, commenting on the blood literally spurting out of his head, saying the fight needed to be stopped. i believe that was in the 3rd round. conspiracy or not, it needs to be looked at.
     
  15. divac

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    To late for that my friend.....MAB nor his team did'nt make a verbal stance for themselves, during the fight, there is no way that anyone is going to overturn this into a no-contest.....nor should they.