Do you ever put Heavyweights in your P4P?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Not unless they are called David Haye.
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    great post and that's exactly the kind of thing i've been thinking about. Of course Vitali and other heavy's would develop their skills differently if they were smaller BUT some heavyweight's you know would excel in any era, in any division because of how they perform (ie: Ali, Tyson, HOly) whereas others like maybe Lennox were great heavy's but could only rule that division because they lacked certain qualities
     
  3. Jorodz

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    haha, i was waiting for Haye to join the discussion
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    at middleweight he would still have:

    an Iron Chin

    awkward lean back style

    counter punching ability

    defense


    so yes he could still succeed at Middleweight.

    Shrink Roy Jones Jr. down to say Light Weight. He would have:

    a Glass Jaw

    his speed would be the same as everyone else and so would his power etc. he would get knocked out.

    It is easy to play the 'size' game but it does not mean anyting.
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    that's an interesting look at it. good points about vitali but wow, what's with the jones hate??
     
  6. Damo1712

    Damo1712 Boss Full Member

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    Personally i think if they havnt won titles at 2 weight divisions minimum they do not belong on p4p lists.

    p4p applies to those fighters who can change weight divisions....vitali cant do it

    no doubt vitali's got good skills but all we'll ever be able to do is speculate about the possibilities at other weights
     
  7. Carnage

    Carnage KingFroch Full Member

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    I think people who say that at middleweight or any lower, heavyweights wouldn't do well, well if we are talkin POUND FOR POUND, then POUND FOR POUND speed should come in to play, I believe p4p Ali is the fastest boxer of all time, because he was big, but much faster than anyone of that height/weight. People only regard size, mainly going up in, for p4p. If vitali was to completley rule the division, or haye etc then they should be regarded in the p4p, only problem is its such a poor division. oooooorrr i have a better idea, Vitali should lose a **** load of weight, maybe cut one of his cheekbones out, the size of that must weigh a fair few pounds and compete at light heavy, sorted!
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko is a glass jawed hype job, first legit fighter he faces, Vitali is getting KTFO.
     
  9. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    glass jawed? why do you say that?
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Because Rico is constantly making ridiculous, unfounded statements like the one I made above, and I wanted him to taste his own medicine.
     
  11. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    haha, alright then carry on
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali is a top 15 p4p.
     
  13. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    P4P thing were created to make the little guy feel better.
     
  14. Haye

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    Jesus. you are a terrible poster.
     
  15. Kaki

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    Yeah, I'm sure Pacquiao shits himself every night because he isn't bigger than Vitali.