Lucian Bute vs. Arthur Abraham at 168 lbs ~ Analysis Thread

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Bute beats him with bodyshots
     
  2. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Exactly, and maybe stop him late.
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I doubt that till he is shot and/or old Abraham will be knocked out.
     
  4. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    Margarito being the last good example...
     
  6. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You may be right. Andrade is hard to hit to the body because accepts to be hit to the head to protect his body. Abraham is hittable at the body. In fact, I think Abraham has a similar style as Zuniga, except he's less active. He may have a little more power but not much. Abraham is better but at the end, the result could be the same. We'll know how Abraham can manage a good technical fighter after his fight against Forrest. If Forrest is still able, at 38, to be himself enough to fight well against Abraham in his prime.
     
  7. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Bute in some people's eyes is a fraud who has been fighting no hopers since he became champ. The first real fighter he fought had his ass out, and only a distracted home town ref saved his ass. I think bute is decent and has some skills. Bute can be hurt to the body though. Bute has some speed, a good jab and his southpaw stance going for him...but against a guy like AA who loves to fight tall guys, AA can counter Bute at any time. Bute is too open for AA, and all of AA's shots would find their mark. AA gets you to walk in while using defense, and then opens fire. The fact that Bute doesn't hit hard is the reason why imo AA stops him. Bute won't be able to take AA's power. AA will even land his jab. Bute will be good early using movement and a jab, but he will slow down, an AA will slowly break him down. AA ko in 8 or less.
     
  8. Hermit

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    I thought I noticed a few times when Abraham let his elbows get a little wide while in guard and open to the same solar plexus shot.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    OK, so I'm not wrong..:lol: :huh
     
  10. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    :rofl
    I can find many points in favor of Abraham. But your post is not very convincing as it is full of false facts.


    Bute doesn't have some speed, he has very good (at least) speed. Abraham has good hanspeed but poor footwork.

    First time I hear about Abraham liking to fight tall guys. He never does! He only faced three tall guys and none were dangerous. Did not look impressive against Simon the other night.

    Abraham is good in countering, as Bute. It would be interesting to see who would become the agressor.

    Bute doesn't hit hard. That's why he has 19 ko's in 24 fights. :nut
    Abraham and Bute have the same ko percentage. Abraham hit harder than Bute but ask Berrio and Zuniga if they think Bute hits hard.


    Thank you for making me laugh.
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I can't see this ending other than a wide points decision for Bute or a brutal KO by Abraham. I'd lean towards Bute by decision, but a knockout victory for Abraham wouldn't surprise me.
     
  12. Brickhaus

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    Where do you get off saying Bute doesn't hit hard? He knocked down iron bearded Andrade, has a very high KO percentage and wobbled Sakio Bika a couple times.

    I don't necessarily disagree with the rest of it (other than the 8 or less part - if Abraham does break him down and win by KO, it will be late in the fight, as Bute's stamina is questionable), but with Abraham just standing there and shelling up like he usually does, Bute would probably be popping in and out and peppering him most of the fight. He does leave himself open for the counter though, and Abraham does throw a great counter. That I could see being the gamebreaker. Bute's speed drops a bit in the late rounds, and Abraham catches him with a huge counter that hurts him.

    I wouldn't say that Abraham loves fighting tall guys. Tall but crappy fighters like Ayala and Ikeke gave Abraham much more trouble than they should have.
     
  13. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Wow, so much wrong point here. A fraud:lol:
    so Bika isnt a real fighter? Bute was up at the count of 8 you dumbass. Bute can be hurt to the body?why are you talking out of your ass?He was never hurt to the body in all his career. Since when AA love to fight tall guy? Since beating the poor Kingsley Ikeke????:lol:. Oh Bute don't hit hard? Yeah, so Kessler must hit like crap, because Andrade said it that Bute is hitting harder than Kessler. Since when AA is breaking people down?. You were saying Andrade would KO Bute under 5 round you fake dumbass Amsterdam. You are useless:lol:. Changing your username ahahaha. You still are a fraud.
     
  14. Hermit

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    What's really sad, is if you go to his public profile, he has befriended himself... :-(
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    That guy who fought LuJaun Simon the other night would be badly outclassed by Bute. If Simon can take 3 or 4 rounds off AA, Bute would take 10 or 11.