Leonard (of Hearns) vs Hagler (of Hearns)

Actually, this doesnt even look like a fair fight. Ir could resemble a modern day Dempsey-Carpentier fight

 

Leonard was, I guess, at his peak of the Hearns fight. Hagler was already slipping by the time of his fight with Hearns, in my view.

However, the 85 Hagler had much more left than the 87 version and was still hungry. Great fight. Good chance SRL is still there at the end, but loses clearcut decision. The 83 Hagler has a decent chance of stopping him.

 

If Hagler boxes, Ray has a chance of looking fairly good. If Hagler doesn't mess around, Ray goes down-hard. Marvin is simply too strong and brings too much pressure for Ray to cope with.

 

I think Ray has the lateral movement which Hagler could not ever deal with. Ray would not be touched by Marvin much in 1982 if they would have fought then. It would not be an exciting fight, Ray would just move and move and counter and make Hagler look like a fool with bolo punches and combinations. I pick Ray to win a decision. Ray was the guy who could beat Marvin almost everytime. Just a better fighter I hate to say since I like Marvin's personality more. In 1985 that was the Hagler which would have had a better chance to beat Ray though. Marvin of 1985 was sharp and active. But Ray's style just is a bad one for Marvin. Marvin could not really cut off the ring when Ray would box laterally.

 

This is a welterweight against a middleweight. Really silly thread as Hagler clearly has the upperhand.

 

Next thing you know, people will be talking about the peak 83 version of Hagler against the faded 83 version of Duran.

 

i think Hagler would win a UD by a wide margin

 

What about the Duran of the De Jesus III fight against the Hagler who fought Hearns?

 

Duran gets stopped in one round.

 

Come on, guys, this isn't a bad question. Historically, welterweights have taken on middleweights when both were in their primes. We have plenty of evidence to judge how well Leonard would have done. Watch his fights with Geraldo and Kalule. Leonard struggles with middleweights. Hagler was already slipping by the Hearns fight, but he had plenty left to flatten Leonard. There's a reason Leonard waited until he did to actually get it on with Hagler.

 

That easy eh? Makes you wonder why Sugar Ray was so averse to the fight happening before '87.

 

No, I don't think it is a bad question. I do think though that the Leonard of the Hearns fight weighing about 11 stone gives Hagler all the trouble he can handle. Leonard was at his peak here while Hagler of Hearns could of been on the slide. I think the Hearns result flatters him. Hearns definitely fought the wrong fight and he had no legs. We all know it was an all out war and this didn't suit Tommy's style. If he'd of fought like that in the first Leonard fight I think Ray would of stopped him earlier.

 

spot on. The fantasy matchup takes a peak Leonard against a non-peak Hagler. A more interesting matchup would be 83 Hagler v 83 Leonard. It could have happened, shame.