Will Valero surpass Pac and Hatton in ATG list?

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  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    You have misunderstood. Not ethnicity but styles. Pac has only beat one style of good fighter. Hatton will be one more then he must face someone like a Mosley or Mayweather style and win. He needs to fight another fighter who is good but not past their best as well. Until then, he's not p4p #1 or ATG! Marquez is a good counter-puncher and gave Pac all he could handle. Floyd is a master counter-puncher. He would not win that battle unless his learning can go any higher and has not reached it's limits. We will see.:smoke
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Valero fights for the WBC LW title next. He's only been cleared to fight in Texas but will be clear in other states before long. It's the main reason he has not been able to get bigger fights, plus many promoters don't want their fighter in against someone so dangerous.
     
  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Valero has been improving. Pac's time is up if he fights him. Marquez would be a tougher test for Valero than Pac.
     
  4. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    valero is the most overrated fighter today, he only fights bums and people compare him to pac and and jmm, crazy
     
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    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    YUP! he has to improve after all what are we to talk about valero if there was no mosquera in his resume?!

    practically NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT JEFF M!:hat
     
  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    He's a lot better since Mosquera. Pitalua is next for his title fight. Now that Valero is with Top Rank and can fight in the states he will only be in big fights from here on out.
     
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    Sweet jesus. I suppose Holyfield going to unify the HW titles while were on the subject of clinical insanity.
     
  8. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Valero is nothing but an overhyped bum who has proven nothing but KO D and C level fighters over in japan. He will NEVER beat Pac or Hatton. Not in this reality.

    To all the Valerotards please give it up. Your boy aint gonna amount to much.
     
  9. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    There's no real evidence to support such outlandish claims. I'll withhold my long term opinions of Valero until I see him fight a quality fighter on a decent stage in the U.S. market.
     
  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Umm..apparently some here don't get that Valero just recently has been allowed to fight in the U.S. and had to fight all over the world because he failed a brain-scan after he crashed his motorcycle? Like I said, he's with top rank now, and fighting for the WBC LW title next month against Antonio Pituala. Pac pulled out of the Valero fight to fight a shot ODLH.
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    April 4th. It's a very good card besides the Valero fight.
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Clinical Insanity= *******s and Hattonites!
     
  13. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Bull****. Pac was never slated to fight Valero last December. Get you facts straight.
     
  14. Sting

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    He was talking about you sunshine.

    Clinical Insanity = Valerotards. :good
     
  15. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    The fight was slated for Nov 8th of last year!