Jack Loew: I don't like the Mora fight, Abraham would be easy work.

Yes, and the double jab crap gets old too. First off, no fighter against whom KP made the double jab work finished on his feet. Second, a good stiff double jab is generally thought of as a positive atrribute, and that has been true since boxing rings had ****ing ropes around them!

 

pavlik looked like **** against a former jr.middleweigh with a glass chin and bute destroyed zuniga with ease whom gave pavlik hell.

 

I think it's about money. Arum has been consistent with his story. He has not asked Sauerland to do anything other than raise Arthur's profile in the states. One problem on here is that we get a lot of idiots who seem to think raising Arthur's profile is Arum's jobatsch

 

If you honestly think KP look bad against Rubio, it's time to do what I should have done ages ago, and add you to my ignore list, because you are an idiot that knows diddley ****.

 

Arum has reason to question what he is told from the Pavlik camp after they hid the injury and bronchitis from him before the Bhop fight. My gut feeling though is that it is money. Arum and Saurland had a talk about what was needed to make the fight happen. Saurland took it to heart because they obviously started negotiating with Forrest before the Simon fight even took place. So they are both now against guys that split a pair of fights. Looks good. Not sure if Saurland gave Arum a "must happen by" date or not. Saurland knows Kelly wants to unify. Arum knows Abraham wants to unify. So......

 

a lot of people say pavlik looked bad against rubio. But then again, you'd tattoo the guys name on your arm and you're like 95 years old, i don't expect you to see the light.

 

Make me a list of all the rounds Pavlik lost in that fight, and explain why you scored them for Rubio.

 

just because pavlik hardly lost a round doesn't mean he looked good. he looked slower than usual, his punches were not on target and he looked clumsy.

he looked way better against miranda and taylor

 

Miranda and Taylor fought back. Rubio ran like a jack rabbit on crack:yep He came close to stinking the joint up. Pav did not put on a "best ever" type performance, but his use of the left hook was very good, and I liked the fact that he seemed to be going back to punishing the body; something he was known for as a prospect coming up. I saw stuff I liked and stuff I didn't like. Bottom line is he ***** slapped his mandatory into submission.

 

Actually Rubio didn't come close,he actually did stink the place up.

 

Zuniga gave Pavlik hell? Eh? He threw a lot for the first 3 or 4 rounds, missing and getting jabbed apart, by which time he couldn't match Pavlik's pace and was totally gassed. Pavlik wore him down and KTFO'd him.

And Pavlik didn't look **** against Rubio by any means. It wasn't as exciting a performance as you might expect; but when a fighter comes in to curl up in a ball and not get hit for most of the fight, it's got B-Hop fest written all over it. He was still coming forward and doing damage. Compare that with AA, who fought 4 seconds a round against a very much sub-class fighter that, if it weren't for the knockdowns, could have had him beat.

 

If Pavlik K Zuniga TFO then you were watching another fight.The fight ended between rounds with controversy as Rafael Garcia said ''Stop it'' and then negated this and he wasn't even head trainer for that one.Zuniga in fact wanted to continue.

 

So I hope but remember the first fight with Forrest . I expected Forrest to just own him and looked what happened .I always worry when fighters get in with cagey fighters ..

 

Today is proof positive that that drinking beer on St. Patrick's day starts early and isn't limited to the Irish. :deal