Why can't you admit that the Klitschko brothers would give Ali huge problems?

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Wlad fans please stop..ya'll ni33as crack me up...

    Look, they are the best of this era...not 1 hw today could beat them....this era is garbage...look at the contenders in this era.....wlad and vitali aren't what ya'll think

    and please dont say this bull$hit about evolution!!
     
  2. Ashstrodamus

    Ashstrodamus Rodney Dangerfield of ESB Full Member

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    Maybe he means that Wlad and Vitali have college degrees and are nutritionalists. These guys are smart and stay in great shape.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    How ironic that you misspelled "stupidest" while insults my intelligence. :patsch

    I guess you haven't followed sports and world records much over the last 40 years.
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :patschJesus not this again. Once again with the unbeatable klits like if their the sentinels from the xmen. Not to discredit the klits, but we are actually living through one of the if not the weakest eras in heavyweight boxing, that has been mentioned by the experts and majority of fans who agree on this already. David Hayes is the only credible name since a faded Lennox Lewis beat Vitali in a close war in all this time to give the klits any credit as much as I like the guys, but that's the nitty gritty, not because they are not American. There is no doubt both klits especially vitali would pose problems for Ali, but in contrast you have to think the problems Ali would pose for both brothers. He was perhaps the slickest, fastest, and smartest fighter of any era with great stamina and chin in his prime. He lived through the greatest era in heavyweight history.

    I do agree if both brother used their jabs it would pose some problems, but Ali's most dangerous punch was a sneaky right hand that was perfect for countering jabs. I think he stops Wlad in the late rounds and beats Vitali on split decision.
     
  5. Ashstrodamus

    Ashstrodamus Rodney Dangerfield of ESB Full Member

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    Nonsense, it's a great era of HW boxing. It's the Klitschko era!!!:deal
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    ummmmmmm SPOT ON

    :good
     
  7. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course they'd trouble Ali.

    They're stupidly huge.

    That doesn't mean he couldn't box their ears off or the sturdiest chin in the history of the division couldn't handle what was coming.

    Rope a dope Ali would struggle with them more, but dancing Ali - With his handspeed, footspeed, reflexes and all time great chin - would slice them up in my opinion.

    Who the hell has Wlad or Vitali ever beat who's even in the same universe as Ali?

    I mean - As readily as you expect people to agree Ali may struggle with the brothers Klit, you must also recognise that Wlad has lost to 3 less than A grade fighters and the best fighters Vitali has fought have resulted in a loss, can you imagine Ali loosing to a Corrie Sanders?

    Vitali his style to me would be like open season to a fighter with Ali's ability to stick and move, being at a whole other level than anyone that either brother has fought in terms of his angles and speed.

    I don't think that Ali looses to either, but I also don't see him stopping Vitali, and probably not Wlad either. I would see Vitali loosing a 118-110 type decision and Wlad a closer 116-112 kinda fight.
     
  8. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have never heard anyone say that.. even the hard core haters dont say that
    :nut:smoke
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Sanders did rock Vitali, no doubt. However, he didn't put him down. Sanders was pushing Vitali's back and tripping him with his legs. There was no punch landed when Vitali slipped. Here is a screen capture that I took a couple years ago when arguing this....
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    Pretty easy to see.:good
     
  10. Spunik

    Spunik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye certainly could. And a Haye fight would bring much needed hype to the HW division.
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    MUH FU34A ARE WE GRADING MY PAGES NOW...DAMN U REALLY WANNA BE JUSS LIKE WLAD AND VITALI...COLLEGE PROFESSORS...

    AGAIN U R DESPERATE IN UR ATTEMPT TO DEBATE...U USED EVOLUTION...

    WHO IN UR OPINION COULD BEAT WLAD AND VITALI FROM ALONG TIME AGO LETS SAY? OR EVEN FROM 7 YEARS AGO???

    YOUR THEORY STATES FIGHTERS FROM TODAY ARE BETTER THAN FIGHTERS FROM THE PAST...LB 4 LB WLAD AND VITALI AREN'T IN ANY TOP 100 LISTS AND NO ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT THEY ARE TOP 100 ATG LB4LB...THERE GOOD, BIG, TALL FIGHTERS WITH GOOD JABS AND BOTH HAVE VERY NICE RIGHT HANDS....WLAD HAS NO CHIN..VITALI'S HEART IS AT QUESTION...QUITTING WHEN UR SHOULDER IS ****ED UP

    ARTURO GATTI FOUGHT WITH WORSE INJURIES-MAYBE VITALI SHOULD TAKE SOME NOTES FROM HIM..

    UR BOIS ARE JOKES AND ALI WOULD SCHOOL EM BOTH...BIG GEORGE WOULD WHOOP THAT A$$...

    PRIME LEWIS WOULD SPIT ON EM....

    IM DONE WIT U MAN U GETS NO CREDIT BOI.!1

    JUSS LOOKIN THROUGH YOUR POSTS THESE ARE THE ONLY 2 MUH FU34AS U MOSTLY TALK ABOUT..

    GO BACK TO TALKIN BOUT EVOLUTION OR SOME $HIT..AND RESPOND TO ME BIT3H CUZ I OWN YOU:nut
     
  12. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Haye will get beat down man...Haye is not beating Wlad or Vitali....Not 1 HW today is beating them...an in shape James Tony will put up a very good fight but Tony won't get in shape so that is not happening!
     
  13. Ashstrodamus

    Ashstrodamus Rodney Dangerfield of ESB Full Member

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    You're kidding right:lol:!!!! I see a big blur and that shot proves nothing. Don't get me wrong, I like VK(not so much a Wlad fan) but that shot didn't show me anything.:rofl
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Chef he quit when he was ahead and he was undefeated at the time...I don't think he shoulda quit...I realize he was in pain but Julio Cesar Chavez, Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones Jr, ARTURO GATTI, MICKY WARD, Robinson,Mayweather Jr, De La Hoya, Mancini, etc etc etc..have all won fights while bein hurt...HIS HEART IS MOS DEF AT QUESTION...
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    When have I ever said that Wlad or Vitali were unbeatable? Obviously they aren't, they have already been beat. Nobody is unbeatable. I also never said that nobody from the past would stand a chance against them. My argument is for those who dismiss the idea what Wlad or Vitali could give someone like Ali problems in a fight. They could beat him, which doesn't mean that he couldn't beat them.

    Did you happen to read the title of the thread? Does that title state that Vitali and Wlad would dominate all past greats?:nut Unlike you, I'm not closed minded and I actually have the ability to understand that both fighters would have a chance to win. I am not stupid, or brainwashed enough to go along with the warped logic that you use when discussing fighters from the past and present. However, I also realize that Ali was a GREAT boxer, and of course you can't count him out in any fight. Once again though... that isn't to say that he can't lose either, because obviously he can too.

    All you do is make up a bunch of ****, pretend like I said it... and then slap the caps lock on and continue to make the most pathetic posts that this message board has seen since it was established in 2001.