Jermain Taylor's first 3 title defenses vs. Kelly Pavlik's first 3 title defenses...

taylor is garbage. i like him to but he is over rated. i gave him both hopkins fight by the skin of his teeth. wright got jobbed. he didnt throw more than 24 punches a round when he fought spinks. than he loses to pavlik and loses the rematch (which some delusional fans think he won)

taylor is over rated until proven otherwise.

 

if pavlik is a fraud than what does that make taylor?

pavlik 2 taylor zero

thread is an epic fail

 

Please stop talking. You're making yourself look awful.

I am huge Wright fan as well. I saw the fight. I had it 6-6 like many other people out there. I had no problem with either man winning.

Also Vargas was given steroids orally from a trainer who did not tell him what they were. Did you know Vargas drove to 3 hospitals post fight to get his **** test in? He wouldn't have bothered if he had something to hide. Not to mention the roids he was taking, if I am correct, were not going to help him in a fight wehre stamina is key.

 

Stanzanol. Do your homework "this potent oral cutting agent is capable of adding high quality lean muscle mass"

He could have easily be led a stray. Only an ignorant person would say he was not.

http://www.cibexolabs.com/stanzanol-v.php

http://www.latinosportslegends.com/2002/vargas_suspended_for_use_of_steroids-112002.htm

 

Ummm Clemens is a POS and he def knew. So did A Fraud

Vargas' persona and personality, to me, say he wouldn't do it knowingly. w

 

I have a bucket of hammers in my garage that is smarter than you are, and my cocker spaniel knows more about current boxing events than you and Ray Hogan combiined. **** off, we're done.

 

Taylor did get a lot of **** for his first 3 defenses. But he has fought better competition than Pavlik.

 

I hate to get into this arguement, but Pavlik does need to step it up. Fighting bums is not gonna improve his skills. It's a shame that he is fighting the caliber of fighters he is facing now. Vernon Forrest wiped the floor with More at Junior-Middleweight. How in hell does he get to fight for the Middleweight title. It's like his promoters aren't even trying to give him a competitive fight.
I'd rather see him beat up on John Duddy or Peter Quillen than a bum like Mora. At least they will go out on his shield. Fighting Mora is a travesty, and I think Sergio is gonna make Kelly look bad in the fight. I have a feeling Pavlik won't be able to knock him out.

 

In terms of how he fought he was a professional. He'd rather go out on his shield than ***** out.

This argument has nothing to do with Pavlik/Taylor anyway. You're attacking my credibility and argument because I like one fighter.

Moron

P.S. Get off Taylor's nuts. He is all HYPE