Here's the last round of that fight. [YT]MSWKASRza78[/YT] Yeah, Hatton is clearly no Velasquez, but at least Manny has a couple of punches already in his arsenal that would be a good starting point for his training for Hatton.
it was also a right hook counter that pac hit erik morales with when erik was charging towards pac during the 10th round of their second fight. that punch stopped morales on his tracks and set up pac's patented straight left that dropped erik to the canvas for the first time.
Do any of you genuises know that Pacquiao and his trainers refused to let Morales weigh in 2 lbs above the 130 limit for both the second and the third fight. He barely made weight in their first fight and it was his final winning performance. It was after all the Barrera, Chavez, Hernendez, and Zaragoza fights. Straight to point he was a spent fighter for the last two fights that he barely made weight for.
It's not so much about the level of class that seperates Velasquez from Hatton. It's the amount of severe pressure, and the type of intensity and speed Hatton brings behind it. Clipping somebody with a counter hook falling in out of a traditional set is a moderately advanced boxing manuever. Clipping an opponent who is moving at the same speeds Velasquez was moving is borderline easy. Clipping someone at the speeds and level of purpose Hatton collapses is akin to bullfighting. You may recall it took both Mayweather and Lazcano the better part of their entire fights to land the counter hook squarely. And easy as it looks to us at home on TV to catch Hatton with a good shot on the way in, the actual results seem to indicate it isn't as easy as it looks. And again, this is Manny Pacquiao we're talking about. They guy that bails out if the opponent grits his teeth before launching far more often than not - and that may be an understatement.
can you provide a link to this story? afaik, erik actually easily made weight for one of those fights since he got into a scientific weight reduction program. you also have to remember that by the time pac fought both barrera and jmm @130, he like erik was already having problems making weight.
I watched that fight again two nights ago. It was a good shot, think about it though; the 10th round of Pacquiao/Morales II is when he landed that shot. The 10th round. Morales was a corpse at that point.
Manny did alot of damage with his left hand early in the fight, and Morales showed flashes of brilliance at times, but Erik was clearly exhibiting signs of weight drain and/or showing signs of being a shot fighter in the second Pacquiao fight, and there's no just no way around it.
hmm... a "corpse" that was still charging though... erik did a lot of that charging on earlier rounds too but pac also hit him w/ right hook counters when backing up. erik was charging at will during their first fight and pac had no answer to that when he was backing up. that right hook counter pac developed after the first fight really became the difference in their subsequent fights. pac was able to counter erik's jab with it and hit erik with it when backing up during erik's charges.
The second fight picked up where the last one had left off with one major difference - Morales was clearly not the same guy from the first fight. You can ignore that fact all you like. Pacquiao couldn't deal with Morales' charges until Erik started exhibiting AIDS like symptoms - that much was clear. As a piece of reference material for the Hatton fight I stopped paying attention at a certain point because of this due to 'non-relevance.' If you want to give full credit to the situation that's your choice. Knock yourself out.
Pac really needs to box and not get caught up in exchanges. He'll need the energy for the second half. Can't wait. I'm sticking with Hatton.
you have to accept that pac didn't have that wicked right hook counter in his arsenal until after that first fight w/ morales. pac was basically a one-two, telegraphic right jab-left straight slugger at that time. that's why ppl here labeled him as very limited and one-dimensional during those days but certainly not anymore now. dig up the old threads. you'll see what i mean.
Good concept... There's a process of integrating changes and adding things to a fighters arsenal. A process that involves successes as well as failures in the early going, and Manny was showing signs of both in his rematch with Morales. He made all sorts of tactical errors as a tactician still learning. That made him about as good as the version of himself that Morales fought the first time. I saw everything you're talking about and heard the 'Manilla Ice' commentary as well. The fact that Morales came apart like a leper's skin with and without Pacquiao's help has nothing to do with any of that. The fact that Pacquiao did all his meaningful work with his trusty old left hand and classic moves has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. Once Morales started reeling around like an old man it didn't matter much, now did it? If Manny was going to practice some new moves he had the perfect guy practice them on.
again Hatton blowing his own trumpet and making out he does stuff that noboidy else does, absolute bollocks. There are plenty guys in the WWF doing the shite he does.
Pac can last long against Body shots, It's one of his few nightmares that made him lose. And Hatton has a good body punching skills. But the thing is which gameplan will emerge higher? Pac is now known for his brilliance technique and Hatton is now molding to a different technique.