YOU the Manager....Your route to the title.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by brown bomber, Mar 19, 2009.


  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Thats very true.... as a lover of the sport i'd like to promote the old fashioned route.... The Euro title is very lucrative though.... i'd love an accurate breakdown of purses. Its not something really discuss.... migt try and get somefigures off micheal.
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I def. agree with starting with 6 rounders rather than 4s. Pacing issues aside theres more chance my top prospect can let his quality show over 6 rounds and get the decision. With 4s he could drop a point for foul and easily end up with a draw or even a loss on his record needlessly.
     
  3. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Which world class fighter would you consider most fitting to your blue print? I like the way Brodie was developed but I think he spent to long at European level.
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Doing this you can see why Sports Network just play the number game.
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I agree, Warren never progresses careers like traditional boxing fans would approve of but he does let a fair number of borderline world class boxers earn very, very well.

    I much preferred the days of area/ Brit/ Euro but as a manager I'm not sure thats the route I'd take if the other options were open to me.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For me three in the modern era stand out.

    Lloyd Honeyghan had great career development to a World championship. Them two big upsets (Rosi and Curry), both seem in hindsight to be helped by Lloyd having learnt his trade properly, before stepping in the ring.

    Barry McGuigan just shows you, an early upset does a proper prospect no harm. Indeed the only slow down came after the tragic Young Ali fight.

    Naseem Hamed may of not ultimately lived up to the hype, but his career development up to the Johnson win, was brilliant IMO.

    As for some who perhaps should of done a little better, I thought both Bomber Graham and Hatton probably should of stepped up to fight the cream of their division a couple of years earlier.

    I know it is simple to say that and that both had problems finding them type of fights, despite both probably wanting them, but it did hurt Graham and certainly at least slowed down Hatton's rise.
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yeah good calls there mate... Lewis? He was moved along well.... I liked the way they were bringing along spencer Oliver too
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis is an excellent example, especially as Lewis had to learn his trade in front of a live TV audience. He may of looked a bit amateurish at times, and perhaps some puzzled why the Businessman managed to take him six, or Jaws, eight.

    But with hindsight, Lewis was beating an undefeated top 5 World ranked Heavyweight (Gary Mason) within 22 months of turning pro, he was that good.

    To compare: Audley Harrison, who won the same Olympic title 12 years later, was fighting Matt Ellis two years into his career.
     
  9. TFFP

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    Debut - Fight a complete bum that your kid knocks out in the first round. Purely a confidence builder, getting used to life without helmets and pillows, as well as the anxiety of a pro debut out of the way.

    Fights 2 through to 5 - Fight more cans with losing records. Try to get one that is durable. Try to get one that is southpaw.

    Fights 6 through to 10 - Gradually increase the quality of opponent from bums up to decent journeyman with ranging styles, and finallly a gatekeeper for the division. Sink or swim time.

    11 through to 15 - Now we should have some sort of ranking. Fight contenders in the British rankings, working our way up to mandatory.

    Somewhere around 16 - Fight for British title.

    17 - 19 - Win Lonsdale strap outright by fulfilling mandatories.

    20 - If there are any fights with fellow undefeated prospects that are begging to be made, try our best to do this if a reasonable offer comes in.

    21+ - Look for European title shot.

    22-24 - Defend it a few times against whoever the EBU chucks up.

    25 - Look for world title shot. The easiest possible route to begin with, likely the WBO! But it could be any in truth.

    26 - Get our feet under the table....make a defence and help secure the fighters future.

    27+ - Now we are firmly at world level...look for unification.

    30+ - If we've now unified the division, lets move up.

    Depending on whether the talent of my prospect is special or normal I might choose to take it slower or faster, but all things being equal something like this is the ideal progression to me.
     
  10. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    12 fights against domestic fighters, and will spend most of my money on PR. Getting my fighter on TV show's, i will pay setanta for having me and my fighter on their show once aweek..and we will have are special segment. Called "The Hit list"


    Where we put 10 domestic fighters in a pole, these domestic fighters could be....My fighters next fight, and we get viewers to vote for are next opponent every few weeks or months, how often we fight. The reason why we will be on the show everyweek is because, we will phone these 10 fighters up..."Live on air" and basically ask them questions. Sometime's we might visit them in their gym......


    In this game, it's all about building..building..building. After the 12 domestic fights are over, we will fight for the British title.


    After we have won that, we will just go all gun's blazing. European and commonwealth title's, smash them.


    And then in a tactical decision, i will start working with Golden Boy promotions. And i will say..


    "Listen i have a talented fighter here, good looking, mixed raced and he is from Liverpool. We will fight for you ...for nothing "just pay for are transport and food/trainning", 4 fights...for nothing.

    You see we don't want to be paid, this will be a tactical decision. Just so we can break into the big time, and after we smash 4 opponents on big fight cards. The money and contracts will be ****ing rolling in, my fighter will already be one of the biggest sport athlete's in the UK, by the time he leaves for the state's.


    Because of the way i promoted him...

    It's about building Stars...
     
  11. 1stcontact

    1stcontact Like Mo, But Better Full Member

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    Would anyone bring their fighter along the same way as David Haye was??
     
  12. achillesthegreat

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    Traditional route. 10 fights in one year and that should move them 4x3 to 12x3 along with an area title and country title.

    In their second year they are ready to fight for British, Commonwealth and Lonsdale.

    Third year, they are ready for Europe and a world eliminator. From there it is world level fights non stop even if they lose fights.
     
  13. dwilson

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    I would force him to keep his day job as a bin man and let the rest sort itself out.
     
  14. DarkDestroyer83

    DarkDestroyer83 Lunatic biker Full Member

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    First 12 fights put him in with decent journeymen from the same weightclass in 4 rounder and eventually build it up to 8 or even 10 rounds.

    Fights 13-16 against decent fighters who have fought at national title level.

    Fights 17-20 National title fight and a few defences.

    Fights 21-30 against international opponents, Euro level, Southern/Central Americans, North Americans, former title challengers, possibly former champs.

    Fights 31-35 against top 10 opponents and eventually a title shot.

    But what the hell do I know:-(
     
  15. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    I still think the British,Euro and Commonwealth route is overrated simply because Americans arent expected to do it.Its inconsistent.Nothing wrong with it,just think its seen as too sacred.
    The top Americans fight and bump each other off in World title fights,why should we do it for less?
    You realize if Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns were Brits,their first fight would have been for a British title,with the loser starting again at domestic level.Absurd but true.